Israel

[Something completely different]

I side with EGross here. Israel is a democracy and AtlasS, your people aint exactly what one could considere to be somekind of rolemodel for human rights or friendship and peacfull coexistance with other peoples.

Yes I see the settlements in the west bank as illegal but this doesnt give me the right to call israel an "apartheit state".
When using extrems to describe a political situation one automaticaly deevaluates the historic significants of the original historic event.
When calling Israel an appartheit state you make the real south african appartheit less worse than it actualy was.

[Dee Dee Ramone]

I know Hamas is insane and spends money on those rockets. But your government uses much heavier weapons in urban Gaza and also spends millions of dollars killing much more Palestines. .

So you say Arabs and Jews have the same rights in Israel?

And you are also not thinking logically. You admit that you are anti-Israel because in a war, fewer of them got killed and their weapons were more accurate. I doubt that you would have redirected your hatred had it gone the other way.

That's irrational thinking on your part. I knew participating in this thread was a mistake at the offset, and believed I would regret it. Hate usually pours out rather than having a rational discussion.

Dude, I oppose your government as much as I oppose Hamas. They are just all insane. Hamas is as aggressive against people in Gaza & Israel as Netanyahu & colonists are aggressive against Palestinians. Only your government is much much more stronger.
My view on the conflict doesn't mean I oppose the existence of Israel or hate Israeli or whatsoever. So don't accuse me of hate, because you are killing any rational discussion by doing that.

[EGross]

Here is the town where I live. I live at the edge, and we have run out of housing space for the grandchildren to visit. Plus it's getting crowded:



So this was our backyard about 6 weeks ago, and way back and to the right there is a hilly area that is slated for a couple of hundred new homes.



But until this line is drawn, I'm reluctant to invest. I'd hate to put out a lot of cash and then lose it all. And we like the suburbs rather than being in a congested big city.

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There is snow in Israel!!!!!!!!??????????????????????


hock:

[EGross]

Once every couple of years for about 8 hours and then you'd never know it. Although this year there was a bit of evidence the next day. Therefore, kids who live here have no idea how to make a decent snowmane. They always look anerexic.

[Something completely different]

We neighter know how to make snowmen.




Because here in Germany it rains blood and tears.

[Dee Dee Ramone]

After Egross suggested I am an anti-semite, a golden card ofcourse, he's now ignoring my reply and posting some happy photo's of snowy Israel. Fine for him.

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Israel systematically oppresses the palestines, deny their civil rights, violates international law, use heavy weapons in high-densed areas, steals water of the Jordan river.

Israel is a country with 8million people in it.

When you say "Israel" you condem the entire people of that country to be part of your accusation, and since it is a jewish country - it is antisemitsm.
I simply accuse the current goverment of undermining the peaceprocess to gain right wing votes.
But I would never state that all the 8 million people in that country are collectively opressing a people.


And about Gaza.

These fucks deserve their prison.
They chose an opressive islamist salafist regime.
So let them rot with it.



Or do you really think that one should treat an organisation which has it written in it`s charta (founding document of principles) that it wants to kill all jews and rule the world, like a reasonable partner on the diplomatic stage?

You are dutch?! Dont you remember what we did to your country aswell?
Dont you remember how people thought one could negotiate with someone who proposed genocide as if it were a inferstructure reform program?

[Dee Dee Ramone]

Sorry. Where I said Israel, I had to write...the government of Israel....Netanyahu or whatever.

But I am not an anti-semite.

[CapnAwesome]

Israel is a country with 8million people in it.

When you say "Israel" you condem the entire people of that country to be part of your accusation, and since it is a jewish country - it is antisemitsm.


And about Gaza.

These fucks deserve their prison.

They chose opressive islamist salafist regime.

So let them rot with it.



Or do you really think that one should treat an organisation which has it written in it`s charta (founding document of principles) that it wants to kill all jews and rule the world, like a reasonable partner on the diplomatic stage?

You are dutch?! Dont you remember what we did to your country aswell?
Dont you remember how people thought one could negotiate with someone who proposed genocide as if it were a inferstructure reform program?

Watch out Germans, he can paint an entire people with one giant brush, but if you even suggest that Islam is a problem in Isreal it's somehow a personal attack against him.