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An original argument against creationism
March 3, 2013 at 1:31 am
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One argument that I have never heard against creationism is that based what parts of the bible I have read the god depicted in that terrible book the bible is too stupid to be able to create the earth in 6 days. There is no way for "god" who is not even able to solve any world problems such as hunger, rape and aids is able to create everything on the earth including us in-fact I don't see there god to be even intelligent enough to create a simple Prokaryotic cell. The solution for those that still believe in creationism is just to stop believing in there crap theory and accept that there is no god.
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RE: An original argument against creationism
March 3, 2013 at 1:51 am
Well, there is another way to account for that: God is smart enough to fix all those problems, but chooses not to because he is evil and enjoys watching people suffer.
If Yahweh is real, that is the only plausible character analysis of him. He is definitely not good or loving or caring in the slightest.
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RE: An original argument against creationism
March 3, 2013 at 2:05 am
God is not very bright because the primitive men who invented him were not very bright.
What does that say about the asswipes who still "follow" him?
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RE: An original argument against creationism
March 3, 2013 at 7:53 am
Those old goat herders had an excuse, they were many centuries away from anything resembling a real understanding of the world.
In the 21st century, there's no excuse.
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RE: An original argument against creationism
March 3, 2013 at 7:58 am
Nerd - 1. welcome, 2. you don't come across as very intelligent if you can't spell correctly. Is English your first language? If yes, are you American?
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RE: An original argument against creationism
March 3, 2013 at 9:08 am
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How can you know if something's good if you can't understand the opposite? God has given to us evil so that we may fully understand what is good (That is why the tree was of the 'knowledge of good AND evil'- you can't know one without knowing the other), even though most of the good things have not yet come.
If Yahweh is what the bible says he is then we can be sure that there will come a time when he will wipe away all the tears from our eyes, and there will be no more death, or mourning, or crying or pain anymore (Rev 21:4) and all the earth will know him (Hab 2:14). I'm sure that all our problems will seem like nothing when this happens- but they will have given us a much better appreciation of God's ways.
Are we supposed to be doing nothing about these problems? No. We are instructed by God to care for the poor, try to make peace, etc... we just need to realise that it will only be completely fixed when God intervenes.
I hope this answers your question...
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RE: An original argument against creationism
March 3, 2013 at 10:19 am
(March 3, 2013 at 7:58 am)Aractus Wrote: Is English your first language? If yes, are you American? No it is c++  Why do I not come across as very intelligent I just struggle with grammar that does not necessarily influence one's intelligence.
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RE: An original argument against creationism
March 3, 2013 at 11:21 am
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RE: An original argument against creationism
March 3, 2013 at 11:25 am
(March 3, 2013 at 1:31 am)Nerd Wrote: One argument that I have never heard against creationism is that based what parts of the bible I have read the god depicted in that terrible book the bible is too stupid to be able to create the earth in 6 days. There is no way for "god" who is not even able to solve any world problems such as hunger, rape and aids is able to create everything on the earth including us in-fact I don't see there god to be even intelligent enough to create a simple Prokaryotic cell. The solution for those that still believe in creationism is just to stop believing in there crap theory and accept that there is no god.
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RE: An original argument against creationism
March 3, 2013 at 1:10 pm
(March 3, 2013 at 9:08 am)jap23 Wrote: How can you know if something's good if you can't understand the opposite? God has given to us evil so that we may fully understand what is good (That is why the tree was of the 'knowledge of good AND evil'- you can't know one without knowing the other), even though most of the good things have not yet come.
Which of course raises a very valid counter question: if god wanted to "give" us both good and evil, why did he bind up all knowledge of those two subjects in the fruit of that extra special tree, and then bar his creations from eating from it and imbibing that knowledge?
Quote:If Yahweh is what the bible says he is then we can be sure that there will come a time when he will wipe away all the tears from our eyes, and there will be no more death, or mourning, or crying or pain anymore (Rev 21:4) and all the earth will know him (Hab 2:14). I'm sure that all our problems will seem like nothing when this happens- but they will have given us a much better appreciation of God's ways.
Depends on the bible verses you choose to believe, I suppose. And on just how sure of your salvation you are.
Quote:Are we supposed to be doing nothing about these problems? No. We are instructed by God to care for the poor, try to make peace, etc... we just need to realise that it will only be completely fixed when God intervenes.
I hope this answers your question...
Another questions comes, then: why hasn't god intervened already? Why would he allow evil and suffering at all? What's the benefit of that?
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