Should God the Father adore man for teaching him better morals and ethics than what he has taught man?

[John V]

I was just following their dogma.

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

This is speaking to believers.

John 8
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do.

[Greatest I am]

I was just following their dogma.

There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.

This is speaking to believers.

John 8
42 Jesus said to them, “If God were your Father, you would love Me, for I proceeded forth and came from God; nor have I come of Myself, but He sent Me. 43 Why do you not understand My speech? Because you are not able to listen to My word. 44 You are of your father the devil, and the desires of your father you want to do.

We both know that the bible can be made to say damned near anything.

I am not sure what your point is.

I have just recently spoken with a Universalist and he tells me that he has 77 quotes to back up his Universalist stance and I am aware of many that show the opposite. He was actually debating with another Christian who was in the us and them camp.

My bottom line there was that if all emanated from God in the beginning then it is not likely that he would plan to lose anything of himself. If I was an all-powerful God and master of all at any point in time I think I would have that mind set as I would not want to see myself as a loser of anything that I was master of.

That would be a step down and for a God, that would be a no no.

Regards
DL