Science and religion

[jstrodel]

Who defined the word proof? Have historians and paleontologists discovered an ancient religious text that defined the word proof? How did that happen?

Who invented the dictionary?

This is where I get to the issue of being a psuedo-intellectual. An intellectual would realize that the word proof has many different sense and is culturally defined and it varies context to context. Perhaps they would argue for one sense of proof, based on a thorough investigation of philosophy and science and religion and many other related issues. This would not be easy to do.

A psuedo-intellectual would understand the term proof to have some sort of fixed definition that refers to atheist apologetics.

I wish that I could disabuse you of your psuedo-intellectual atheism, but I can't if you won't admit it or defend it.

That sounds suspiciously like what someone might say when challenged to "prove it" when they in fact, could not do so.

That is true, it does sound like that, but it doesn't change the fact that it is true. Commonly, peoples beliefs coincide with motivations that would help them. The existence of this, however, is not sufficient to disprove the merits of a certain belief based on the motivation.

[Foxaèr]

I just did produce evidence.

If you had produced the evidence that you seem to view as factual, then we would all be agreeing with you right now. Since you have not provided any evidence, we are instead stating that you should provide some evidence. How hard is that to understand? Sometimes, informing you of anything seems harder than educating a child. At least a child, free of the religious propaganda, is able to grasp something as simple as proving one's point.

[Mystical]

It's true because it's true because it's true because it's true. And that's cuz it's true. Look it up, in my true book which is absolute truth. Oh and then disregard all that science bullshit, since a majority of scientists think it isnt true.

Good game.

[Tonus]

I just did produce evidence.

Your hallucinations are not evidence of god. They're evidence that you're seeing things that aren't there. We both presuppose something. You presuppose something you, nor anyone else, has been able to demonstrate to be real. I presuppose something that no one has been able to demonstrate to be false. All of your guesses at my motivations or the sincerity of my attempts to find god are irrelevant. When you can demonstrate god is real, that might matter.

[jstrodel]

I just did produce evidence.

If you had produced the evidence that you seem to view as factual, then we would all be agreeing with you right now.

You are saying words that sound like logic to you, but they are false. That is a false statement. I am not trying to offend you, but are brainwashed by atheism. You talk about reasoning like a child, it seems like you accepted atheism as a rebellious act against growing up. I am not sure about that.

Your posts do not display any kind of logical order. You don't make arguments. I sincerely love you and care about your soul. Please look at what I am saying. What if I am true?

If you want to prove me wrong, I will give you $100 if you put that last post in formal logic. I am serious. I will give you my phone number and send the money. If you put what you wrote in formal logic.

I am doing this because philosophy is very powerful and does lead people to God. What you are writing has no logical substance, I am not saying this to offend you, I am saying it to show you that if you open your mind up to a real appreciation of critical thinking and apply it to atheism, you will see things differently.

Like I said, if you put what you wrote in formal logic and show how it demonstrates a conlusion, I will give you $100.

[Jackalope]

That sounds suspiciously like what someone might say when challenged to "prove it" when they in fact, could not do so.

That is true, it does sound like that, but it doesn't change the fact that it is true. Commonly, peoples beliefs coincide with motivations that would help them. The existence of this, however, is not sufficient to disprove the merits of a certain belief based on the motivation.

Say, dude, are you sure you didn't relapse?

[jstrodel]

I just did produce evidence.

Your hallucinations are not evidence of god. They're evidence that you're seeing things that aren't there. We both presuppose something. You presuppose something you, nor anyone else, has been able to demonstrate to be real. I presuppose something that no one has been able to demonstrate to be false. All of your guesses at my motivations or the sincerity of my attempts to find god are irrelevant. When you can demonstrate god is real, that might matter.

You mean, can't demonstrate to you. There are plenty of people that can demonstrate the reality of Christianity to others. My pastor was on a plane and he gave a man a prophetic word that the man was caught in the act of adultery and needed to repent. He demonstrated the truth of Christianity.

Because no one has demonstrated the truth of Christianity doesn't mean that it isn't true.

I don't presuppose Christianity is true, I presuppose that my senses are accurate. That is totally different from presupposing that Christianity is true. I have no reason to think that I am insane. I have a job, I think clearly, I go about my business.

[Foxaèr]

You are saying words that sound like logic to you, but they are false.

Can you honestly be this naive? Perhaps you are so lost in the vacuum of religiosity that consumes those more in need of comfort than intellect.

[thesummerqueen]

Guys, let him go masturbate to god. You're not going to get anything more out of him.

[jstrodel]

It's true because it's true because it's true because it's true. And that's cuz it's true. Look it up, in my true book which is absolute truth. Oh and then disregard all that science bullshit, since a majority of scientists think it isnt true.

Good game.

Post a statistic that shows the majority of scientists in America think science proves atheism is true. You will find that 40-55% of scientists believe in God

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