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RE: Born this way, baby
March 24, 2013 at 2:09 pm
(This post was last modified: March 24, 2013 at 2:15 pm by DeistPaladin.)
Then again, is Christianity a lifestyle choice:
The Onion (satire): Gay Teen Worried He Might Be Christian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qCzbNkyXO50
...and just for a shoe-on-the-other-foot, here's an old video of mine:
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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RE: Born this way, baby
March 24, 2013 at 3:40 pm
(March 24, 2013 at 10:00 am)John V Wrote: 1. Define gay.
A homosexual.
2. Support that you were born gay.
Like most adolescents, I did not wake up one day during the onset of puberty with the arduous decision of having to choose between being sexually attracted toward men or women. Like most individuals, I understood the accepted standard was for boys to like girls and vice versa, but even as late as the age of fourteen and fifteen I did not feel any sexual desire for either gender. I was a late bloomer. When my hormones finally began to change my body, I almost immediately knew that I was different than other guys. I distinctly remember the very first time I had a sexual thought. I was walking from one class to the next, and I was staring at the ass of someone in front of me. It was a great ass, it excited me sexually, and it belonged to a guy. I have never experienced any sexual attraction toward women whatsoever.
3. Explain what being born that way has to do with anything.
It is in reference toward those who believe being gay is a choice. Obviously, I was never faced with a choice of whom to be sexually attracted to. Most everyone can attest to the same thing, whether they are gay or straight.
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Re: Born this way, baby
March 24, 2013 at 4:11 pm
I used to think it was a choice. But only because I hit puberty and found myself attracted to both genders and thought everyone was at that point and that we all chose one way or the other later on. Then I found out what "bisexual" was. Lol
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RE: Born this way, baby
March 24, 2013 at 4:20 pm
(March 24, 2013 at 11:28 am)frz Wrote: People sexuality shouldn't a reason to be an atheist IMO.
I was merely referencing that thread as the first point in this forum where I mentioned that I was gay. Certainly, religion's stance on homosexuality pushed me away from the church, but it was studying and questioning that eventually made me an atheist.
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RE: Born this way, baby
March 24, 2013 at 4:44 pm
Abomination I tell ya...
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RE: Born this way, baby
March 24, 2013 at 4:47 pm
People, don't take catfish's bait.
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RE: Born this way, baby
March 24, 2013 at 4:51 pm
Yeah, god forbid he gets an opinion like he asked...
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RE: Born this way, baby
March 24, 2013 at 4:58 pm
Well Catty opinions such as that aren't really usefull in any kind of way, I'm just saying that you are praying to get attention from others in a way that is more than you deserve.
If we all started to give opinions in the (ahem) intelectual way you gave yours, we wouldn't have much of a discussion forum. But well, your opinion was heard and rightfully dismissed automatically.
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RE: Born this way, baby
March 24, 2013 at 4:59 pm
(March 24, 2013 at 4:51 pm)catfish Wrote: Yeah, god forbid he gets an opinion like he asked...
You've got to admit, that's a tough hurdle.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
-Stephen Jay Gould
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RE: Born this way, baby
March 24, 2013 at 5:04 pm
(March 24, 2013 at 4:44 pm)catfish Wrote: Abomination I tell ya...
I will inform you of what is an abomination. Your incorrect spelling of you.
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