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Islam or Atheism
RE: Islam or Atheism
(April 20, 2013 at 6:20 am)Joel Wrote:
Quote:warped like a book
What the hell does that even mean?

I always thought the koran was warped, just not in the way suggested here.



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RE: Islam or Atheism
(April 20, 2013 at 6:19 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Yes, Quran told that the Universe will be warped like a book
till now it is not obvious how, but in the future science may discover something then it will match with the Quranic words.
Ah, I see, so, rather than acknowledge any part of the post -that you quoted- you chose instead to make another claim that you feel might be easier to defend - with the proviso that maybe one day science will discover whats in the book. On this count I'm absolutely certain that you are correct, since there's been a demonstrable trend to fuck with the narrative to meet the scientific standards of any given time (a trend that began at it's fabrication - where they fucked the pooch by thinking that the greeks and persians had it all right).

Puts the lie even further to the notion that -the book don't change, ergo god-

I'll be awaiting your thread on fortune-telling eagerly, it's a favorite subject of mine.
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RE: Islam or Atheism
(April 20, 2013 at 7:55 am)Rhythm Wrote:
(April 20, 2013 at 6:19 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Yes, Quran told that the Universe will be warped like a book
till now it is not obvious how, but in the future science may discover something then it will match with the Quranic words.
Ah, I see, so, rather than acknowledge any part of the post -that you quoted- you chose instead to make another claim that you feel might be easier to defend - with the proviso that maybe one day science will discover whats in the book.
that's the beauty of it
While it cannot be proved wrong (compared for example to the bible which have clear false statement)
At any time in the future science will discover new things that will match Quran, which at that time will be a miracle (for some people)
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RE: Islam or Atheism
I agree, that -is the beauty of it- for the apologist. The goalpost is both un-falsifiable and comes with wheels standard- so that folks such as yourself can argue -with themselves- whenever they have doubts that require buttressing from something more tangible and reliable- such as science.

Pray at my altar all day long, I'm sure "allah" won't mind.
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RE: Islam or Atheism
(April 20, 2013 at 8:11 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: At any time in the future science will discover new things that will match Quran, which at that time will be a miracle (for some people)

You keep saying this, but continue to dodge my previous question:

Care to share with the forum the difference between an oblate spheroid (Earth) and a prolate spheroid (ostrich egg)?

This is just a simple example where your God-given Quranic 'science' is patently false.
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RE: Islam or Atheism
Quote:This is just a simple example where your God-given Quranic 'science' is patently false.
Especially the parts about talking shoes and LASER-technology.
(March 30, 2013 at 9:51 pm)ThatMuslimGuy2 Wrote: Never read anything immoral in the Qur'an.
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RE: Islam or Atheism
(April 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote:
(April 17, 2013 at 10:30 am)pocaracas Wrote: Why should I accept your book over these guys'?
it is because I proved God existence and no one was able to refute it.

No. You just keep repeating that like a bad moto. no one was convinced because you're argument sucked.
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RE: Islam or Atheism
(April 25, 2013 at 6:20 am)justin Wrote:
(April 17, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Muslim Scholar Wrote: it is because I proved God existence and no one was able to refute it.

No. You just keep repeating that like a bad moto. no one was convinced because you're argument sucked.
It is because you are not able to refute it, so you just keep saying any words to deny it.

(April 25, 2013 at 6:31 am)Dragonetti Wrote: Atheism All the WAY!
The end of this "WAY" is hell!!!

(April 20, 2013 at 11:31 am)cato123 Wrote:
(April 20, 2013 at 8:11 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: At any time in the future science will discover new things that will match Quran, which at that time will be a miracle (for some people)

You keep saying this, but continue to dodge my previous question:

Care to share with the forum the difference between an oblate spheroid (Earth) and a prolate spheroid (ostrich egg)?

This is just a simple example where your God-given Quranic 'science' is patently false.
The same word in Arabic can be used for a number of meaning
You need to see all Quranic references to the Earth shape then you will recognize what is meant.

It is clearly a non-uniform sphere (more like a Pumpkin)
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RE: Islam or Atheism
Quote:The same word in Arabic can be used for a number of meaning

Believe me, you don't need to say this, anyone who has ever argued with a Muslim about the quran knows that every arabic word can mean several different things.

The beauty of it is that if scientists discovered the earth was flat tomorrow the quran would still be right in the eyes of muslims wouldn't it?


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