Religion/god is just wishful thinking.

[Godscreated]

[Atheist(KM)]

So, by your logic if its in my head and I believe it, its real LOL. Again prove it, I read your ''holy book'' and it offers nothing but unproven claims. Yes FSM has given me comfort my life is much more fun and comforting than it was when I believed in your imaginary friend, this one is more fun.I feel much happier as an atheist than I EVER did as a Christian. Also, how can you prove your interpretation is true and other churches are false 38000 different interpretations of that book they all can't be right and, somehow your feeling are infallible, talk about prideful. So again if you can't prove for certain that your ''god'' is God, he is simply just another claim that is extraordinary which requires evidence, like, vampires, unicorns, bigfoot, etc. Just because you have a book doesn't mean squat if it doesn't have EVIDENCE to back it up, all you've proven is its in your head, personal revelation alone isn't evidence, as my FSM example showed.

That's the best you've got for what I gave you, well...... please try again, this time use your brain.

What? Knowledge is demonstrable therefore show me the proof otherwise, you don't know for a fact. Like anyone making extraordinary claims REQUIRE, extraordinary evidence. Otherwise your claim is as valid as FSM and the invisible pink unicorn. I did use my brain, all you've gave me was, TAKE my word for it and how I READ the bible, yes clearly your interpretation is the only true one out of 38000 christian groups, prove it first. If you can't prove your belief isn't the result of a mental illness or delusional thinking I can and will assume such until, you have proof that what the bible authors say is true and your experience is valid. So, show me the evidence.

[Ryantology]

Your wall of text has no answer for this: We have a copy of the Book of Jeremiah that is 2300 to 2500 years old, and it 's word for word with today's translation, there are a few words different, but in no way do they change what the passage says. If this book is reliable to this great extent, then why do you presume the rest of scriptures have been altered. We have no original copies and never will, without them your points are meaningless.

1. There are 65 other books which are canon, so in 3000+ years we've managed to verify the authenticity of a whopping 1.5% of the books which were not arbitrarily discarded or lost. Given that the stories of the Bible were not all written at once by the same person in the same place, and the fact that many tales in the Bible are known to be inherited myths from older cultures (many of which have been substantially altered), if Jeremiah actually is as accurate as you claim, common sense tells us that it is almost certainly an outlier. It also does not take into account that the Bible is a recording of many stories which passed by word of mouth for decades or even centuries before being committed to parchment or papyrus, so there's no way of knowing whether the Bible got any of it right in the first place.

2. It doesn't matter if every single word in the Bible has been unaltered since the day each word first touched a writing surface, because that does not even suggest that a single one of those words is non-fictional, so really, it is your point which is meaningless.

[thesummerqueen]

Agnostic, this might just be me and my computer settings, but your religious views have pushed your posts so far to the right that I can't read them.

[iameatingjam]

This is why I have a hard time believing that all religious people actually think there is a god, sometimes I think they just want there to be. I felt that way once, albeit I was 11, I can still understand why people want there to be a god. They are afraid of death, they want to cling a hope that life continue beyond the grave even though rational thought says otherwise.

[Lord Privy Seal]

Your wall of text has no answer for this: We have a copy of the Book of Jeremiah that is 2300 to 2500 years old, and it 's word for word with today's translation, there are a few words different, but in no way do they change what the passage says.

Are you talking about the Isaiah Scroll, the one on display in the Shrine of the Book in Jerusalem?

If this book is reliable to this great extent, then why do you presume the rest of scriptures have been altered. We have no original copies and never will, without them your points are meaningless.

If you had bothered to read my post, you would have noticed that I gave you examples of significant variances in Biblical texts. Unlike you, I do not have unlimited faith in the infallibility of all those men between you and the original authors. Not having the the originals of Biblical texts does not make your position.

[Godscreated]

Your wall of text has no answer for this: We have a copy of the Book of Jeremiah that is 2300 to 2500 years old, and it 's word for word with today's translation, there are a few words different, but in no way do they change what the passage says.

Are you talking about the Isaiah Scroll, the one on display in the Shrine of the Book in Jerusalem?

No, the book of Jeremiah.

If this book is reliable to this great extent, then why do you presume the rest of scriptures have been altered. We have no original copies and never will, without them your points are meaningless.

If you had bothered to read my post, you would have noticed that I gave you examples of significant variances in Biblical texts. Unlike you, I do not have unlimited faith in the infallibility of all those men between you and the original authors. Not having the the originals of Biblical texts does not make your position.

I did not say not having the originals made my position, not even applied. Wish we did it would settle a lot. I know most of what you posted, most ot it is stated in the Bibles I use.

[Lord Privy Seal]

No, the book of Jeremiah.

Do you have a cite for this? I'm familiar with the Isaiah Scroll as a famously-preserved scriptural text, but I haven't heard of a comparable text of Jeremiah. In the interests of clarity, I'm not being antagonistic. I just haven't heard of this manuscript and would like to learn a little more about it.

[frz]

There are some people who just throws the book under their pillow like it has some magical force field that gonna protect them from harm and carry into their day while they don't bother to read 80, if not 95 percent of the book.

[Godscreated]

No, the book of Jeremiah.

Do you have a cite for this? I'm familiar with the Isaiah Scroll as a famously-preserved scriptural text, but I haven't heard of a comparable text of Jeremiah. In the interests of clarity, I'm not being antagonistic. I just haven't heard of this manuscript and would like to learn a little more about it.

The dead sea scrolls, it's not a complete scroll.

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There are some people who just throws the book under their pillow like it has some magical force field that gonna protect them from harm and carry into their day while they don't bother to read 80, if not 95 percent of the book.

That's not me, I'm doing a chronological read, I've never read the Bible this way, it makes things easier to follow, the chapters that are repeated in different books are read at the same time.