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RE: God & Objective Morals
May 12, 2013 at 10:52 am
(This post was last modified: May 12, 2013 at 10:57 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(May 10, 2013 at 9:53 am)Godschild Wrote: (May 9, 2013 at 7:47 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: Honestly, yes, because religion is absolutely useless. It does much more harm than good.
Prove it then big boy. The religious have already handled that - for centuries. This communal ad naus the godly are so fond of is irritating and pointless. If someone went door-to-fucking-door "proving" some claim that ran counter to any groups religious faith...by the time you finished up with the last guy the first guy would demand that you "prove" it again. Hell, you probably wouldn't make it passed the first house.
In any case, you're already on-board with this position. I doubt you'd contest that any religion other than your own is anything other than useless, and harmful. So you have a favorite, and it gets a pass. 
Quote:Now you're stating science will prove something is not from God because it occurs naturally, how do you know that God didn't plan for this. Morals do not come from anything, morals are part of who God is, they have always existed. Truths are eternal.
Science doesn't have to concern itself with whatever your favorite bedtime story may be. Feel free to engineer any claim you'd like to make to be as vaporous and empty as the god claim itself. If you spent your entire life trying to peddle off fairy tales I doubt that it would register as a blip on the radar. Who cares what you have to say about a thing which you cannot produce?
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RE: God & Objective Morals
May 13, 2013 at 3:57 pm
(May 12, 2013 at 9:32 am)dazzn Wrote: morality doesn't exist. get over it.
What you are saying is that if someone murdered your entire family you would be ok with it, it would be within the murderers own justifiable morals right.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: God & Objective Morals
May 13, 2013 at 4:29 pm
(May 13, 2013 at 3:57 pm)Godschild Wrote: (May 12, 2013 at 9:32 am)dazzn Wrote: morality doesn't exist. get over it.
What you are saying is that if someone murdered your entire family you would be ok with it, it would be within the murderers own justifiable morals right.
What if someone did it to you and said that God told them to do it, or they justified it with some Bible verses?
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RE: God & Objective Morals
May 13, 2013 at 6:53 pm
(May 13, 2013 at 4:29 pm)Ryantology Wrote: (May 13, 2013 at 3:57 pm)Godschild Wrote: What you are saying is that if someone murdered your entire family you would be ok with it, it would be within the murderers own justifiable morals right.
What if someone did it to you and said that God told them to do it, or they justified it with some Bible verses?
That would be too cliche.
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RE: God & Objective Morals
May 13, 2013 at 11:49 pm
(This post was last modified: May 13, 2013 at 11:51 pm by Godscreated.)
(May 13, 2013 at 4:29 pm)Ryantology Wrote: (May 13, 2013 at 3:57 pm)Godschild Wrote: What you are saying is that if someone murdered your entire family you would be ok with it, it would be within the murderers own justifiable morals right.
What if someone did it to you and said that God told them to do it, or they justified it with some Bible verses?
I would do everything I could to see that they were jailed or put to death.
(May 13, 2013 at 6:53 pm)smax Wrote: (May 13, 2013 at 4:29 pm)Ryantology Wrote: What if someone did it to you and said that God told them to do it, or they justified it with some Bible verses?
That would be too cliche.
You lack the compassion to be called human, I guess in your case evolution from some ape applies.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: God & Objective Morals
May 15, 2013 at 10:26 am
(May 13, 2013 at 11:49 pm)Godschild Wrote: (May 13, 2013 at 4:29 pm)Ryantology Wrote: What if someone did it to you and said that God told them to do it, or they justified it with some Bible verses?
I would do everything I could to see that they were jailed or put to death.
(May 13, 2013 at 6:53 pm)smax Wrote: That would be too cliche.
You lack the compassion to be called human, I guess in your case evolution from some ape applies.
The opposite is true. I'm human enough to find the attrocities of the Bible to be dispicable.
But, you go ahead advocating genocide, slavery, bigotry, rape, molestation, and hate crimes while judging others to be inhuman and primitive.
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