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If Not Hell then what?
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 (May 14, 2013 at 10:10 am)Faith No More Wrote: What you seem to not understand is Rhythm's point is that that ability to tap into a far deeper capacity of love resides within you. You've just chalked it up to external forces and given it a name. what you two dont seem to get is with the support of God none of this would have been possiable. RE: If Not Hell then what?
May 14, 2013 at 2:50 pm
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2013 at 2:55 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
That certainly doesn't square away with just how immenantly "possible" it is for so many people day in and day out to meet and exceed their own expectations of themselves sans some magic well. I mean, if we limited this just to you (something you couldn't seem to bring yourself to do) then it still looks like an example of that common mis-appraisal of our own abilities...and the narrative that follows certainly establishes that this was the case.
You finger god for getting you through the rough times - but others don;t seem to have required it, and you can't produce this thing you're fingering in the first place (meanwhile what you can produce is your promise, your sense of duty, your, your, your your...). Not only this, you then draw some batshit conclusions about your new magical abilities as compared to others who haven't had this spell cast upon them. A person really has to wedge their head up their own ass in a massive way to continue peddling this - all the way denigrating and devaluing all the experiences and triumphs of others..without even considering them. A casual dismissal of reality that's difficult to even fathom.  Tell me drich, do you imagine that marathon runners are fueled by prayer and mana?
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 (May 14, 2013 at 3:02 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote:(May 14, 2013 at 2:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: "I guess Some times, there aren't enough rocks." -Forest Gump  RE: If Not Hell then what?
May 14, 2013 at 3:11 pm
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2013 at 3:14 pm by Anomalocaris.)
(May 14, 2013 at 3:02 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote:(May 14, 2013 at 2:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote: The invincible ignorance of the true christain can not be enlightened. (May 14, 2013 at 2:34 pm)Drich Wrote:(May 14, 2013 at 10:10 am)Faith No More Wrote: What you seem to not understand is Rhythm's point is that that ability to tap into a far deeper capacity of love resides within you. You've just chalked it up to external forces and given it a name. They don't have to be possiable. They only have to be possible. And for the possible, godlessness is enough. (May 14, 2013 at 3:02 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: Where do you muster the resilience to continuously hurl stones at this brick wall? Do you suspect it is breaking?More like hurling stones at a pile of rubble, and in that sense, i'm just making sure that all the trash and debris is courteously located out and away from underfoot. If drich likes to play in this landfill then so be it, but he could at least refrain from littering the otherwise pleasant field surrounding it.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
The thing I don't understand is that according to your religion God gave man free will, the ability to follow him or not, and when someone chooses not to follow him out of the free will he gave them he punishes them with an eternity of pain, wtf is up with that, makes absolutely no sense whatever way you look at it
(May 14, 2013 at 3:40 pm)Captainhate Wrote: The thing I don't understand is that according to your religion God gave man free will, the ability to follow him or not, and when someone chooses not to follow him out of the free will he gave them he punishes them with an eternity of pain, wtf is up with that, makes absolutely no sense whatever way you look at it If this is what you think then you do not understand the choice you have been given. God gives a choice in this life. To be with him for eternity or to be eternally separated from Him. What ever you choose you will be held to your choice.  RE: If Not Hell then what?
May 14, 2013 at 11:47 pm
(This post was last modified: May 14, 2013 at 11:49 pm by Cinjin.)
(May 14, 2013 at 11:31 pm)Drich Wrote:(May 14, 2013 at 3:40 pm)Captainhate Wrote: The thing I don't understand is that according to your religion God gave man free will, the ability to follow him or not, and when someone chooses not to follow him out of the free will he gave them he punishes them with an eternity of pain, wtf is up with that, makes absolutely no sense whatever way you look at it That's hilarious. "Free Will" is an absurd joke ... While holding an innocent tourist at gunpoint, an armed man offers the tourist a choice: Sir, you have two options. You may either join me in my various causes against the villainous society we live or you may choose to be separated from me. By the way, if you choose neither I will choose for you and worse yet, 'separation' also means that I'm going to separate your head from your body. ....... but hey, it's your choice buddy. Do you know how painfully stupid you have to be not to see this glaring absurdity? (Don't bother answering ... we already know.) ![[Image: Evolution.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=i1118.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fk619%2Fjcincain%2FPublic%2FEvolution.png) (May 14, 2013 at 11:47 pm)Cinjin Wrote:(May 14, 2013 at 11:31 pm)Drich Wrote: If this is what you think then you do not understand the choice you have been given Well put. There is not another more compelling thought experiment that illustrates the absolute ignominious claims of christianity. Its insulting to modern intelligence. I don't know how any self-respecting adult can swallow this God pill without vomiting. |
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