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RE: God said this...God said that......
May 29, 2013 at 11:38 am
(May 29, 2013 at 11:11 am)Godschild Wrote: The all-knowing God saw that all people were evil, except for Noah and his family, God told Noah not only to build the Ark but, also to preach to the people of repentance. 100 years Noah preached and no one listened, I do not believe they were going to change and God knew they were not, He gave them a chance to change for 100 years even though He knew they would not, thus the flood as the punishment of His judgement. No one should question His judgement, would you give your children 20 years to take out the trash after you asked them to. I doubt you are that patient and I know I'm not. Wait wait wait, didn't He create man in the first place? So created man, saw that it didn't quite turn out right, which is basically His own fault, so as a mature reaction to His own failure He goes along and DROWNS everyone else?
Couldn't he have just left them alone doing what they pleased and build a new planet somewhere else in His universe, just mark it down as a practice run? No, He in His omnipotent, omniscient benevolence just goes and floods the entire thing.
What a dick!
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RE: God said this...God said that......
May 29, 2013 at 11:40 am
(May 29, 2013 at 11:26 am)ideologue08 Wrote: (May 29, 2013 at 10:27 am)wwjs Wrote: Please explain to me how drowning the whole world is example of perfect standard It wasn't the whole world, it just was one town with all of human civilization living in it, so for them it probably felt like the whole world was flooding.
What??!?! and when was that?!!?!
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RE: God said this...God said that......
May 29, 2013 at 11:44 am
(May 29, 2013 at 11:26 am)ideologue08 Wrote: It wasn't the whole world, it just was one town with all of human civilization living in it, so for them it probably felt like the whole world was flooding.
Our current understanding of human migration makes this claim nonsensical; however, not quite as absurd as the global flood myth.
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RE: God said this...God said that......
May 29, 2013 at 2:48 pm
(May 29, 2013 at 11:11 am)Godschild Wrote: The all-knowing God saw that all people were evil, except for Noah and his family, God told Noah not only to build the Ark but, also to preach to the people of repentance. 100 years Noah preached and no one listened, I do not believe they were going to change and God knew they were not, He gave them a chance to change for 100 years even though He knew they would not, thus the flood as the punishment of His judgement. No one should question His judgement, would you give your children 20 years to take out the trash after you asked them to. I doubt you are that patient and I know I'm not. The all-knowing God created these people knowing in advance that he'll have to drown them. If you really believe that all the people around the world, including children were evil except one family then there's something wrong with it...
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RE: God said this...God said that......
May 29, 2013 at 2:54 pm
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(May 29, 2013 at 10:27 am)wwjs Wrote: (May 29, 2013 at 8:37 am)Godschild Wrote: No, and I said so in my statement of why God is the perfect standard, please go back and read what I actually stated, you're rehashing things already explained, bring new questions, please. Please explain to me how drowning the whole world is example of perfect standard
It was a perfect judgement on an evil world.
(May 29, 2013 at 11:30 am)Baalzebutt Wrote: (May 29, 2013 at 8:37 am)Godschild Wrote: You need to give an example of what you believe God has done wrong.
To much generalization in your question.
How about when he ordered the slaughter of and entire city? I would call that murder.
How about when he fucked over Job on a bet? Wouldn't you call that a sin?
Judgement and no.
(May 29, 2013 at 11:38 am)littleendian Wrote: (May 29, 2013 at 11:11 am)Godschild Wrote: The all-knowing God saw that all people were evil, except for Noah and his family, God told Noah not only to build the Ark but, also to preach to the people of repentance. 100 years Noah preached and no one listened, I do not believe they were going to change and God knew they were not, He gave them a chance to change for 100 years even though He knew they would not, thus the flood as the punishment of His judgement. No one should question His judgement, would you give your children 20 years to take out the trash after you asked them to. I doubt you are that patient and I know I'm not. Wait wait wait, didn't He create man in the first place? So created man, saw that it didn't quite turn out right, which is basically His own fault, so as a mature reaction to His own failure He goes along and DROWNS everyone else?
Couldn't he have just left them alone doing what they pleased and build a new planet somewhere else in His universe, just mark it down as a practice run? No, He in His omnipotent, omniscient benevolence just goes and floods the entire thing.
What a dick!
You'll have to ask your little god fsm, I do not know him.
(May 29, 2013 at 2:48 pm)wwjs Wrote: (May 29, 2013 at 11:11 am)Godschild Wrote:
The all-knowing God created these people knowing in advance that he'll have to drown them. If you really believe that all the people around the world, including children were evil except one family then there's something wrong with it...
I believe it's you who are wrong, of coarse you are to blinded by your non -belief to see that.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: God said this...God said that......
May 29, 2013 at 3:06 pm
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I expect straight answer, not tapdancing around it and changing topic
(May 29, 2013 at 2:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: It was a perfect judgement on an evil world. Assuming that you have a kid (doesn't matter if you have or not) and he/she dies, would you say that God made perfect decision. I'm not talking about "he/she would be in better place" I mean if you knew that he did the right thing because he's God
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RE: God said this...God said that......
May 29, 2013 at 3:07 pm
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None of you read and tried to understand what I wrote, you are the most exceptionally irresponsible people, it's no wonder you can not see what justice is.
(May 29, 2013 at 3:06 pm)wwjs Wrote: I expect straight answer, not tapdancing around it and changing topic
(May 29, 2013 at 2:54 pm)Godschild Wrote: It was a perfect judgement on an evil world. Assuming that you have a kid (doesn't matter if you have or not) and he/she dies, would you say that God made perfect decision. I'm not talking about "he/she would be in better place" I mean if you knew that he did the right thing because he's God
Just who do you think you are to demand I even answer you, man you're a joke. I'll answer when you show some kind of responsible statement.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: God said this...God said that......
May 29, 2013 at 3:10 pm
Seems like you have no problem with justifying God's actions as long as they are not directed at you
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RE: God said this...God said that......
May 29, 2013 at 3:32 pm
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(May 29, 2013 at 11:38 am)littleendian Wrote: (May 29, 2013 at 11:11 am)Godschild Wrote: The all-knowing God saw that all people were evil, except for Noah and his family, God told Noah not only to build the Ark but, also to preach to the people of repentance. 100 years Noah preached and no one listened, I do not believe they were going to change and God knew they were not, He gave them a chance to change for 100 years even though He knew they would not, thus the flood as the punishment of His judgement. No one should question His judgement, would you give your children 20 years to take out the trash after you asked them to. I doubt you are that patient and I know I'm not. Wait wait wait, didn't He create man in the first place? So created man, saw that it didn't quite turn out right, which is basically His own fault, so as a mature reaction to His own failure He goes along and DROWNS everyone else?
Couldn't he have just left them alone doing what they pleased and build a new planet somewhere else in His universe, just mark it down as a practice run? No, He in His omnipotent, omniscient benevolence just goes and floods the entire thing.
What a dick!
Let's not forget that the first thing this totally non-evil Noah, a just and perfect "preacher of righteousness", did after making landfall with his magic boat was to slaughter one of every clean (and by now critically endangered) species and burn them so Yahweh could "smell a sweet savour". Then he planted a vineyard, got pissed out of his gourd on the crop, exposed himself to his children in his drunken stupor and cursed his grandchildren just because their parents saw him naked. Now there's a wholesome lesson for you!
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RE: God said this...God said that......
May 29, 2013 at 3:52 pm
(May 29, 2013 at 3:10 pm)wwjs Wrote: Seems like you have no problem with justifying God's actions as long as they are not directed at you
In this G-C is a typical xtian.
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