How the Christian god failed?

[Minimalist]

Embrace Islam Islam or you will get punished; in this life by Muslims or in the hereafter by God.

Fuck the both of you...and your pedo-prophet.

[Something completely different]

you are using circular logic
Islam is evil, Islam forces itself, it is wrong, so Islam is Evil

Wrong! Nowhere did I argue like this! If so - then quote the phrase where I do!

If you cant, then shove that lie right back up your muslim ass!!!!!!

Punishment here doesn't mean killing civilians or forcing you into Islam, it means forcing you to follow Islamic rules

So your goal is to force non muslims under the sharia! And you clearly use the word force. If so, then there is a case to be made against you, since making a claim to power on the grounds of using violence is illegal in almoust every democracy.

Your feelings and rejection to Islam is what God wants from you.
Either you accept Islam or reject it badly that you are ready to fight against it, then it will be a test for Muslim to fight against people like you and have the opportunity to die in war and become martyrs
( you know with the 72 virgins and so..............)

So you clearly say that you want to fight non believers.

You should be reported to your local authorities, because there clearly is the potential that you may cause severe harm.

[Muslim Scholar]

So your goal is to force non muslims under the sharia! And you clearly use the word force. If so, then there is a case to be made against you, since making a claim to power on the grounds of using violence is illegal in almoust every democracy.

Yes, but can you prove the democracy is right?
Muslim are obligated to concur all countries, then force Islamic law on them (No Homosexuality, No iterest) even religions, only Christians and Jews will be allowed to practice their religions in Public, others can but in privacy, and all are not allowed to invite people to their religions.

How is that good?
If you assume that Islam is the true religion then restricting other religions will make more people into Islam (i.e. saved)

So you clearly say that you want to fight non believers.

Yes, it is not me it is Islam
and fighting means on the country level not individuals
Muslim countries (when in power) should invite other countries into Islam or Gizia or War
If they accept Islam then they rule themselves
If they accept Gizia, they will allow Muslim to promotes Islam freely inside their countries and not to fight against any Muslim country (a kind of treaty)
Or War

That is Islam; like or not it doesn't matter and it doesn't affect its validity as well because it is consistent.

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All arguments for god(s) fail the bullshit test because belief in said god(s) depends on faith, and faith is, after all, a belief in something not in evidence.

My proof is not dependable on any faith, just in logic!

[Something completely different]

Yes, but can you prove the democracy is right?

Democracy doesnt present itself as the only true system of governance, it presents itself as the system which allows every political movement to participate and to have a chance in governing. It is the best of all known systems because governance is only possible through public consent. Through being pluralist (giving equal rights to everyone) a democracy also creates social stability because equality prevents the uprising of minorities.

It is on you to prove, why a country shouldnt be ruled with the consent of the people, with ignorance towards opposition, oppression of opposition and without the public having a chance to participate in the political arena. Plus you will have to show what benefits it brings to supress pluralism.

Muslim are obligated to concur all countries, then force Islamic law on them (No Homosexuality, No iterest) even religions, only Christians and Jews will be allowed to practice their religions in Public, others can but in privacy, and all are not allowed to invite people to their religions.

I knew that already, you have yet to show how this produces social stability, creates the best possible living conditions for everyone and is in every way moraly superior to a democratic society.

How is that good?
If you assume that Islam is the true religion then restricting other religions will make more people into Islam (i.e. saved)

Here it goes.

I do not assume, that Islam is the right religion, and so do the majority of the worlds population, if Islam were to rule the world, it would be a small fraction of the worlds population oppressing all others.

Yes, it is not me it is Islam
and fighting means on the country level not individuals
Muslim countries (when in power) should invite other countries into Islam or Gizia or War
If they accept Islam then they rule themselves
If they accept Gizia, they will allow Muslim to promotes Islam freely inside their countries and not to fight against any Muslim country (a kind of treaty)
Or War

What a pathetic excuse. Do you really think you can shove responsibility for your actions away by saying "it isnt me who is responsible for my actions, it`s my religion".

Adding to that, your rules are medieval nonsence which have no place nore relevants in todays global diplomatic affairs.

That is Islam; like or not it doesn't matter and it doesn't affect its validity as well because it is consistent.

You have not shown that it is in any way valid.

[orogenicman]

So your goal is to force non muslims under the sharia! And you clearly use the word force. If so, then there is a case to be made against you, since making a claim to power on the grounds of using violence is illegal in almoust every democracy.

Yes, but can you prove the democracy is right?
Muslim are obligated to concur all countries, then force Islamic law on them (No Homosexuality, No iterest) even religions, only Christians and Jews will be allowed to practice their religions in Public, others can but in privacy, and all are not allowed to invite people to their religions.

How is that good?
If you assume that Islam is the true religion then restricting other religions will make more people into Islam (i.e. saved)

So you clearly say that you want to fight non believers.

Yes, it is not me it is Islam
and fighting means on the country level not individuals
Muslim countries (when in power) should invite other countries into Islam or Gizia or War
If they accept Islam then they rule themselves
If they accept Gizia, they will allow Muslim to promotes Islam freely inside their countries and not to fight against any Muslim country (a kind of treaty)
Or War

That is Islam; like or not it doesn't matter and it doesn't affect its validity as well because it is consistent.

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All arguments for god(s) fail the bullshit test because belief in said god(s) depends on faith, and faith is, after all, a belief in something not in evidence.

My proof is not dependable on any faith, just in logic!

If that is the case, then you are screwed.

[Muslim Scholar]

My proof is not dependable on any faith, just in logic!

If that is the case, then you are screwed.

Empty assertions from a mutated mind.

[ThomM]

Imagine what might result if you took that good insight and aimed it at your own religion!

Islam is very different
No one is condemn for others sins
God will condemn only very bad people
he will forgive many and rewards the good ones.

The Islamic system is very rational (even for an Atheist)

Sorry - but the same statement is in Isiah in the BIBLE - that you are not responsible for the sins of others

The islamic system - with its complete disdain for the rights of women is completely irrational - especially for atheists.x

To claim that we would consider it rational - when we do not accept the existence of a god to begin with is truly laughable

[orogenicman]

If that is the case, then you are screwed.

Empty assertions from a mutated mind.

All minds are mutations.

[Muslim Scholar]

Islam is very different
No one is condemn for others sins
God will condemn only very bad people
he will forgive many and rewards the good ones.

The Islamic system is very rational (even for an Atheist)

Sorry - but the same statement is in Isiah in the BIBLE - that you are not responsible for the sins of others

True, but this contradicts with many other statements in the Bible; take for example:

1 No eunuch is to enter the congregation of GOD. 2 No bastard is to enter the congregation of GOD, even to the tenth generation, nor any of his children.

Genesis 9:21-25 And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father .... And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. And he said, Cursed be Canaan [Ham's son]; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.

Exodus 20:5 , Deuteronomy 5:9 I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.

1 Samuel 3:12-13 I will perform against Eli all things which I have spoken concerning his house ... I will judge his house for ever ... because his sons made themselves vile, and he restrained them not.

2 Samuel 21:6-9 Let seven men of his sons be delivered unto us, and we will hang them up unto the LORD .... And he delivered them into the hands of the Gibeonites, and they hanged them in the hill before the LORD.

1 Kings 2:33 Their blood shall therefore return upon the head of Joab, and upon the head of his seed for ever.

Isaiah 14:21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers.

Jeremiah 29:32 Therefore thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will punish Shemaiah the Nehelamite, and his seed.

Zephaniah 1:8 I will punish the princes, and the king's children, and all such as are clothed with strange apparel.

The islamic system - with its complete disdain for the rights of women is completely irrational - especially for atheists.x

Women in Islam are blessed more than women in the western world, they having different rights doesn't mean they have less rights.

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Empty assertions from a mutated mind.

All minds are mutations.

Not mine!
My mind was created by an intelligent God to function as it is planned.

[FifthElement]

Women in Islam are blessed more than women in the western world, they having different rights doesn't mean they have less rights.

Are you for real ?

Why do you assume that none of us here spent some time in that "cradle of civilization" of yours and seen it with our own eyes ?

When in like 10000 years you guys reach the point of respecting women as the rest of the world did in the previous century, then, and maybe, only then, someone will take statement like that somewhat more seriously than: