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RE: A Jurassic avialan dinosaur from China...
June 6, 2013 at 11:55 am
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(June 6, 2013 at 11:50 am)Baalzebutt Wrote: (June 6, 2013 at 11:41 am)Godschild Wrote: I went and found the facts, but it's ok just ignore them and when it all blows up in the face of lying scientist, well I'll just come back and say  , your  made me  !
You are so right! What made me suspect it was fake was the 25 peer reviewed articles that had been published.
Suspect indeed!
There were many positive peer reviews on the fossil they bought from the U.S. and tampered with it, yeah, go ahead and close your eyes to the truth, now your doing what you claim Christians do, really dumb dude.
(June 6, 2013 at 11:54 am)Esquilax Wrote: (June 6, 2013 at 11:51 am)Godschild Wrote: You think what ever pleases you, I do not care, I'm not your slave go find it like I did. You guys say many things untrue about scripture and never give verses to support your claims, I go find the verses and respond to your claims.
Okay, I'll just go back to calling you a liar, then. Because not wanting to get the evidence- especially given that it'll take approximately three seconds for you- feels suspiciously like not having it in the first place.
This is a science thread, about science. Referencing is expected in science, we can't all just make up our own version of it like you do with your bible and its verses.
The Chinese are doing what you claim Christians do, and you trust their science, really stupid me thinks. Besides I do not know how to link them and if I did I probably wouldn't, I am doing exactly what you do wit scriptures, except I don't lie, what would be the purpose in that anyway.
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RE: A Jurassic avialan dinosaur from China...
June 6, 2013 at 12:03 pm
Quote:(5) it implies that the early diversification of Paraves and Avialae took place in the Middle–Late Jurassic period.
So... around 5,000 years ago? I'm guessing 5,000 because it would have to be before the flood, right?
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RE: A Jurassic avialan dinosaur from China...
June 6, 2013 at 12:12 pm
(June 6, 2013 at 11:55 am)Godschild Wrote: The Chinese are doing what you claim Christians do, and you trust their science, really stupid me thinks. Besides I do not know how to link them and if I did I probably wouldn't, I am doing exactly what you do wit scriptures, except I don't lie, what would be the purpose in that anyway.
Do you know what we call people who don't reference, in science? Failures. Seriously, you can't even get away with that shit in a college course.
As to lying... probably can't provide proof of that, either. And if you could, undoubtedly it would be nothing more than a difference of opinion, where we're representing what the words of the bible actually are, and you're representing your own desperate rationalizations of those same words in order to make them look good, so... hey.
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RE: A Jurassic avialan dinosaur from China...
June 6, 2013 at 1:36 pm
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If people are looking into the possibility of it being a hoax, then, by all means... let's wait for it...
We don't want another Archaeoraptor...
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RE: A Jurassic avialan dinosaur from China...
June 6, 2013 at 3:23 pm
Quote:There were many positive peer reviews on the fossil they bought from the U.S. and tampered with it, yeah, go ahead and close your eyes to the truth, now your doing what you claim Christians do, really dumb dude.
Except that it didn't come from the U.S. It was found in China. And dude, once again, if you have evidence that the fossil was tampered with, then by all means, provide it to us. Otherwise, I suggest you stop with these irresponsible, unsubstantiated accusations.
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RE: A Jurassic avialan dinosaur from China...
June 6, 2013 at 4:26 pm
He doesn't. G-C believes in lying for fucking jesus.
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RE: A Jurassic avialan dinosaur from China...
June 7, 2013 at 12:47 am
(June 6, 2013 at 3:23 pm)orogenicman Wrote: Quote:There were many positive peer reviews on the fossil they bought from the U.S. and tampered with it, yeah, go ahead and close your eyes to the truth, now your doing what you claim Christians do, really dumb dude.
Except that it didn't come from the U.S. It was found in China. And dude, once again, if you have evidence that the fossil was tampered with, then by all means, provide it to us. Otherwise, I suggest you stop with these irresponsible, unsubstantiated accusations.
Like I said go ahead and believe in falsified science, I really do not care, actually I hope you are that gullible, then creation scientist will have a field day. You do know I will remind you of it, but again all there will be to expect is, . Do I need to remind you of the strawman you guys always throw up to Christians.
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RE: A Jurassic avialan dinosaur from China...
June 7, 2013 at 1:12 am
(June 7, 2013 at 12:47 am)Godschild Wrote: Like I said go ahead and believe in falsified science, I really do not care, actually I hope you are that gullible, then creation scientist will have a field day. You do know I will remind you of it, but again all there will be to expect is, . Do I need to remind you of the strawman you guys always throw up to Christians.
Here, GC is falling into the trap so many apologists do, after they've been called on nonfactual statements they've made without any supporting evidence, of mistaking sneering arrogance for a rebuttal or actually providing any evidence.
Add in that natural flair for dishonesty he shows quite readily, and he'll be the new Ray Comfort in no time!
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RE: A Jurassic avialan dinosaur from China...
June 7, 2013 at 2:42 am
(June 7, 2013 at 12:47 am)Godschild Wrote: (June 6, 2013 at 3:23 pm)orogenicman Wrote: Except that it didn't come from the U.S. It was found in China. And dude, once again, if you have evidence that the fossil was tampered with, then by all means, provide it to us. Otherwise, I suggest you stop with these irresponsible, unsubstantiated accusations.
Like I said go ahead and believe in falsified science, I really do not care, actually I hope you are that gullible, then creation scientist will have a field day. You do know I will remind you of it, but again all there will be to expect is, . Do I need to remind you of the strawman you guys always throw up to Christians.
What strawman, where? You said that that the fossil was tampered with, and yet have failed to produce any evidence whatsoever to support your claim. The only conclusion I can make here is that you have every intention of promoting dishonesty. So you can dispense with the pretense of self-righteousness. No one believes you.
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RE: A Jurassic avialan dinosaur from China...
June 7, 2013 at 3:00 am
(June 7, 2013 at 1:12 am)Esquilax Wrote: (June 7, 2013 at 12:47 am)Godschild Wrote: Like I said go ahead and believe in falsified science, I really do not care, actually I hope you are that gullible, then creation scientist will have a field day. You do know I will remind you of it, but again all there will be to expect is, . Do I need to remind you of the strawman you guys always throw up to Christians.
Here, GC is falling into the trap so many apologists do, after they've been called on nonfactual statements they've made without any supporting evidence, of mistaking sneering arrogance for a rebuttal or actually providing any evidence.
Add in that natural flair for dishonesty he shows quite readily, and he'll be the new Ray Comfort in no time!
So what you're saying is everyone should take what any scientist says as the truth, even when said scientist has a reputation of tampering with evidence or in this case possibly non-evidence. Real smart of you most gullible grasshopper. Can you possibly be more out of touch with reality.
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