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Religion is dumb...
#11
RE: Religion is dumb...
One things for sure, ole Georgie Porgie knows whether there is a God for sure now.
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I invite you to provide the ACTUAL proof of that statement -AND also provide proof that is a particular god of the many tens of thousands so far named WITHOUT using circular reasoning - ie - the bible or other christian written documents - UNLESS you have actual testable and verifiable proof of the statements
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#12
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(June 2, 2013 at 12:11 pm)little_monkey Wrote: Correction: Religion is not dumb, it's for dumb people.

Nah, it's the other way around. There are highly intelligent theists out there.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#13
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(June 2, 2013 at 12:11 pm)little_monkey Wrote: Correction: Religion is not dumb, it's for dumb people.

I don't wanna call people that practice religion names, but you're right, religion is just a word and not capable of being anything. I know some smart people that are practicers of religion. They feel its important, I think its dumb. It can be a gentlemen's disagreement.
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#14
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(June 1, 2013 at 11:57 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote: I'm bored, have fun...

P.S.
If you believe in a God, yours is especially dumb.

P.P.S.

I worship my tennis shoe, and it answers my prayers at a higher success rate then my neighbor's "Jesus" does. Just yesterday I asked my shoe for dinner, and then I magically cooked it, and it was delicious. Praise Nike shoe!

Actually - Xtianity - which is entirely based on the requirement that we accept the story of Adam and EVE creation even when we already know it is NOT TRUE - is especially ridiculous.

FIrst - if YOU are a christian - and YOU accept the bible - the bible clearly says in Isiah - that we are not responsible for the sins of others (Our fathers) - but are personally responsible only for the ones WE commit ourselves. (Stated plainly)

SO - the idea that anyone beyond EVE - would be responsible for "original sin" is rejected by the bible itself. AND - to support that one - read - 1 Timothy 2 - where it is again stated in the bible that it was EVE who sinned.


THere are so many problems with the religious claims that I could go on forever about them if I lived that long. Why would there be a "WAR" between the devil (Evil) - and god (Supposedly good) =- when the god is supposedly ALMIGHT and the highest power in the universe and able to do anything. Evil can ONLY exist if the god wants it to. If the god did not want evil to exist - it supposedly could WILL it gone without effort.


Now - if WE are not responsible for the sins of others - Explain the PASSOVER - that can only be explained as a mass murder of people who did nothing themselves (THEY were not their leader - they did not even choose him) - to deserve to be killed.
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#15
RE: Religion is dumb...
(June 2, 2013 at 12:13 pm)ThomM Wrote: I invite you to provide the ACTUAL proof of that statement...without using circular reasoning - ie - the bible or other christian written documents...

That invitation has been open for sometime, but it doesn't work like that...surely you know this by now. The bible is good enough, it says it's true. What other proof could you possibly need?!!!

(June 2, 2013 at 12:22 pm)ThomM Wrote: THere are so many problems with the religious claims that I could go on forever about them if I lived that long.

No...You just aren't reading the texts right. Those things were not supposed to be taken literally. Don't you know that? The stuff that doesn't make sense to the reader can be thrown out, the stuff you want to take literally, you keep if it sounds good to you. You would make a terrible Christian.
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#16
RE: Religion is dumb...
(June 2, 2013 at 12:21 pm)Texas Sailor Wrote:
(June 2, 2013 at 12:11 pm)little_monkey Wrote: Correction: Religion is not dumb, it's for dumb people.

I don't wanna call people that practice religion names, but you're right, religion is just a word and not capable of being anything. I know some smart people that are practicers of religion. They feel its important, I think its dumb. It can be a gentlemen's disagreement.

An intelligent person can also be dumb in other areas of said expertise: point in case is Newton. He put physics on the map, but for a good part of his life, he practiced alchemy... besides, being an asshole to Robert Hooke.
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#17
RE: Religion is dumb...
(June 2, 2013 at 12:36 pm)little_monkey Wrote: An intelligent person can also be dumb in other areas of said expertise: point in case is Newton. He put physics on the map, but for a good part of his life, he practiced alchemy... besides, being an asshole with Robert Hooke.

No doubt. But, I wasn't going to canvas all relgious people as dumb. I agree that we're all dumb in lots of respects. I think it would make me appear to be quite dumb if I painted practicers of religion with such a broad brush. I don't know all of them, and certainly can't speak to their levels of individual expertise.

Another intersesting anecdote with respect to your post: Aristotle thought that the thinking mechanism was in his chest, and that whatever it was between his ears, was an organ that cooled blood! He seemed to be a pretty smart fella, and didn't even know what part of his body was producing the thoughts Wink
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#18
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(June 2, 2013 at 11:38 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: [Image: lFY8n.jpg]

Just because your date has stood you up, doesn't mean the rest of us haven't found happily ever after.
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#19
RE: Religion is dumb...
(June 2, 2013 at 12:36 pm)little_monkey Wrote: An intelligent person can also be dumb in other areas of said expertise: point in case is Newton. He put physics on the map, but for a good part of his life, he practiced alchemy... besides, being an asshole to Robert Hooke.

But does that warrant labeling them a dumb person? If a dumb person is someone that can't apply the entirety of their intellect to every aspect of their life, we're all guilty.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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#20
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(June 2, 2013 at 1:02 pm)Drich Wrote:
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Just because your date has stood you up, doesn't mean the rest of us haven't found happily ever after.

Right, but instead of your date showing up, you're just jerking off.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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