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In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
#61
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
Do not forget, at some point in the future it is recommended that she travels to the Middle East to stare at some big cube for pilgrimage-al reasons.
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#62
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
(June 5, 2013 at 11:23 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Must be annoying as all fuck to be within earshot of a shitload of them.

No doubt, but I know a couple rednecks that would love to take her along on a turkey hunt.
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#63
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
(June 6, 2013 at 12:43 pm)Walking Void Wrote: Do not forget, at some point in the future it is recommended that she travels to the Middle East to stare at some big cube for pilgrimage-al reasons.

I didn't even read what you typed in the post but I know you're definitely right because your metal gear solid animation thing is so fucking good.


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#64
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
(June 6, 2013 at 12:33 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: You're a Catholic right? So you live your life based (at least in part, I presume?) on the teachings of the bible/church (be they dogmas, doctrines etc)? In that way, your religion is a massive part of your life, and influences the things that you do.

My atheism is simply a lack of belief in deities. I hold no dogmas, no doctrines, I live my life based on (as I see it) the societal norms that have come about through countless generations of societal (and human) evolution, and within the laws of the state I reside in (England).

I never think about deities or gods, because I have no concept of them, which after all is all my atheism is about. To put it another way, I also presume you don't believe in Santa, right? How often do you think about Santa? Same for me but with deities.

In all I am a pragmatist, in that any evidence for a claim will sway me to take it seriously and accept it as factual (at least until something comes along to disprove it). I hold my 'beliefs' in the here and now, and give little thought to things that 'might be' unless there's a body of evidence going forward to support it.

In a long winded way, my atheism doesn't define me, rather just a facet of me (i.e. my stance of belief on deities).

Gotcha! But that still doesn't explain your presence here? I'm assuming its for entertainment purposes. Which is fine.

You seem to have a Libertarian pragmatism with leanings of an Agnostic! Anyway, your words haven't been clouded by emotion or cynicism, which is appreciated! ...a compliment btw.

In other words, I haven't seen the venom! Maybe if I wait long enough, or antagonize you enough I will!Big Grin
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#65
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
Thanks! I was planning on making it longer but... Internet.

Originally I was including the previous part where Naked Snake says, "Boss... you only needed one snake".
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#66
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
(June 6, 2013 at 1:56 pm)ronedee Wrote:
(June 6, 2013 at 12:33 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: You're a Catholic right? So you live your life based (at least in part, I presume?) on the teachings of the bible/church (be they dogmas, doctrines etc)? In that way, your religion is a massive part of your life, and influences the things that you do.

My atheism is simply a lack of belief in deities. I hold no dogmas, no doctrines, I live my life based on (as I see it) the societal norms that have come about through countless generations of societal (and human) evolution, and within the laws of the state I reside in (England).

I never think about deities or gods, because I have no concept of them, which after all is all my atheism is about. To put it another way, I also presume you don't believe in Santa, right? How often do you think about Santa? Same for me but with deities.

In all I am a pragmatist, in that any evidence for a claim will sway me to take it seriously and accept it as factual (at least until something comes along to disprove it). I hold my 'beliefs' in the here and now, and give little thought to things that 'might be' unless there's a body of evidence going forward to support it.

In a long winded way, my atheism doesn't define me, rather just a facet of me (i.e. my stance of belief on deities).

Gotcha! But that still doesn't explain your presence here? I'm assuming its for entertainment purposes. Which is fine.

You seem to have a Libertarian pragmatism with leanings of an Agnostic! Anyway, your words haven't been clouded by emotion or cynicism, which is appreciated! ...a compliment btw.

In other words, I haven't seen the venom! Maybe if I wait long enough, or antagonize you enough I will!Big Grin

I came here to learn from the perspectives of others. I'm actually a regular on another AF forum so it was a natural progression to move over here and get involved in debates and lurk. People's perspectives always interest me, and I'm a big advocate of learning what others think before going head long into debate with them.

I guess I would label myself as a libertarian in many respects, but not to the extremes that appear to exist over in the US. Fiscal frugality can't be a bad thing, but I'm also an advocate of the state supporting those that can't support themselves (separate from 'won't', who deserve nothing).

And re: antagonism, you're welcome to try :p Cool Shades
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#67
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
(June 5, 2013 at 12:42 pm)Drich Wrote: Big Grin
In the religion of Education, one is 'taught' how to evelate himself up as a 'god.' So he no longer has to kneel before any other God/gods other than the gods that bring him his education.. And as they only want money, and not the aliegeance of his soul, that leaves him free to do as he wills. (with in soceital norms of course.)

By the time you lot have finished diluting the word 'religion' until it means nothing because it can mean anything, I doubt anyone will be able to give a good reason to belong to any one religion in particular when they belong to so many other ones already.
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#68
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
(June 5, 2013 at 6:08 am)Esquilax Wrote: Scholar, do you honestly think that single examples of people converting proves the point you've set out to prove here?

... Oh, who am I kidding? Of course you do; you have almost nonexistent standards when it comes to evidence.
Not all threads and posts is about proofs
I already gave you an irrefutable proof for God existence

This thread is not about proofs, you will find some people rejecting Islam as well, it is about make you think and read more about why some people are choosing Islam.

(June 5, 2013 at 1:04 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: I bloody wish Christianity was in the past. It's June now, which means we have about 2 months left before Christmas fucking starts again and dominates the rest of the year.

Islam is on the rise because of a) Immigration, and b) The decline of Christianity. Immigrants tend to be more actively religious because it's a way to hang around with people they have something in common with. I have seen that used as an explanation for the high levels of extreme religiousity in parts of the USA today.
I also cite the decline of Christianity as a cause because as people realise their religion is a load of bullshit, they will often try out another religion before they notice that that religion is also a load of bullshit and ultimately give up on religion altogether. Islam isn't all that different from Christianity, so it is a logical stepping stone away from Christianity that will not completely remove them from their comfort zone.

In my experience, most atheists tried out at least one other religion before depating from the religion they were raised in, if they had one.
Most people who convert to Islam are well educated and don't go back to any other religion

Read more about it.
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#69
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
Obviously you want them to be well educated. In reality, none of them are. Please count the number of times a member of Islam was awarded an International Scientific Prize, or a new technological discovery? All Middle Eastern Countries are consumers and not innovators.
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RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
(June 9, 2013 at 4:52 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Read more about it.

Read more about the actual religious demographics of the UK, please.

You have a PhD, so you must have a rudimentary grasp of analysing preliminary evidence, yes? The ONS data I provided you is a good start, why not give some real learning a chance for a change?
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