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In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
#51
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
So, Religious people view Education as another religion? How so? If you believe education and science is another religion, then stop using the tools that were created from education and science. It would be against your religion.

Stop using: the internet, phones, cars, electric products, medicines, roads, bicycles, planes, packaged foods, paper, pens, pencils, books, sanitize water, plumbing, toilet paper, and soap.

There is always paleolithic living. Crapping in holes, hunting with your bare hands, drinking waters for non-sanitized areas, and sleeping in a cave or on the ground. Please enlighten me, as why do you use technology?
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#52
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
(June 5, 2013 at 6:46 pm)The Germans are coming Wrote: I guess Muslim Scolar is a bit affraid to return and read the backlash to his nonsence.

I doubt it. Muslim Numerologist usually just ignores such things and plows on merrily ahead with the dogged determination of a prophet who will not be denied his nine year old wife.

(June 5, 2013 at 10:49 pm)Dragonetti Wrote: So, Religious people view Education as another religion?

I figure this to be a variant of a theist calling out an atheist for ever having faith in anything, as if having faith in something plausible justifies having faith in something absolutely not. Drag us down to their level and equivocate.
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#53
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
I always picture this clown like this....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Md7OvU5JI...r_embedded


Must be annoying as all fuck to be within earshot of a shitload of them.
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#54
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
(June 5, 2013 at 10:49 pm)Dragonetti Wrote: So, Religious people view Education as another religion? How so? If you believe education and science is another religion, then stop using the tools that were created from education and science. It would be against your religion.

Stop using: the internet, phones, cars, electric products, medicines, roads, bicycles, planes, packaged foods, paper, pens, pencils, books, sanitize water, plumbing, toilet paper, and soap.

There is always paleolithic living. Crapping in holes, hunting with your bare hands, drinking waters for non-sanitized areas, and sleeping in a cave or on the ground. Please enlighten me, as why do you use technology?
Religion: can be defined as details of a belief, taught or discussed.

Nowhere in the bible does it forbid a believer from teaching, discussing, interacting with those of other religions. Why? Because biblical Christianity is freedom form Religious practices as a means to righteousness. Meaning we are free to intermingle as we so choose. In fact this is what Paul had to say on the matter in 1 cor 9:19 I am free. I belong to no other person, but I make myself a slave to everyone. I do this to help save as many people as I can. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew so that I could help save Jews. I myself am not ruled by the law, but to those who are ruled by the law I became like someone who is ruled by the law. I did this to help save those who are ruled by the law. 21 To those who are without the law I became like someone who is without the law. I did this to help save those who are without the law. (But really, I am not without God’s law—I am ruled by the law of Christ.) 22 To those who are weak, I became weak so that I could help save them. I have become all things to all people. I did this so that I could save people in any way possible. 23 I do all this to make the Good News known. I do it so that I can share in the blessings of the Good News.

(June 5, 2013 at 10:49 pm)Dragonetti Wrote: So, Religious people view Education as another religion? How so? If you believe education and science is another religion, then stop using the tools that were created from education and science. It would be against your religion.

Stop using: the internet, phones, cars, electric products, medicines, roads, bicycles, planes, packaged foods, paper, pens, pencils, books, sanitize water, plumbing, toilet paper, and soap.

There is always paleolithic living. Crapping in holes, hunting with your bare hands, drinking waters for non-sanitized areas, and sleeping in a cave or on the ground. Please enlighten me, as why do you use technology?
Religion: can be defined as details of a belief, taught or discussed.

Nowhere in the bible does it forbid a believer from teaching, discussing, interacting with those of other religions. Why? Because biblical Christianity is freedom form Religious practices as a means to righteousness. Meaning we are free to intermingle as we so choose. In fact this is what Paul had to say on the matter in 1 cor 9:19 I am free. I belong to no other person, but I make myself a slave to everyone. I do this to help save as many people as I can. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew so that I could help save Jews. I myself am not ruled by the law, but to those who are ruled by the law I became like someone who is ruled by the law. I did this to help save those who are ruled by the law. 21 To those who are without the law I became like someone who is without the law. I did this to help save those who are without the law. (But really, I am not without God’s law—I am ruled by the law of Christ.) 22 To those who are weak, I became weak so that I could help save them. I have become all things to all people. I did this so that I could save people in any way possible. 23 I do all this to make the Good News known. I do it so that I can share in the blessings of the Good News.
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#55
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
Wow... funny that in 1 Corinthians 10 20-21 your boy says

Quote:1 Corinthians 10:20-21 (King James Version)
1 Corinthians 10:20-21

King James Version (KJV)

20 But I say, that the things which the Gentiles sacrifice, they sacrifice to devils, and not to God: and I would not that ye should have fellowship with devils.

21 Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lord's table, and of the table of devils.

How come "saul/paul" can't hold a thought from one chapter to the next...especially since the chapters and verses were added later? Did he develop alzheimer's or did Marcion simply do a piss-poor job of editing?
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#56
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
Must be the devil's work!

Also, Education and Rational thinking is not a form of religion. There is no deity to pray too. You also infer that people whom are education hold themselves above god. Why would you believe that? I guess education is the devil's work, or related to the tree of knowledge. Well, if God of Abraham was so powerful and all knowing, he/she/it would know that Adam and Eve would eat the apple. If he/she/it allow them to eat the apple, then how can he condemn them? If this is a test, then how can he create humans imperfect, and know they are imperfect? Because he/she/it knows they would eat the apple. This circular logic is confusing! I am sure it has been discus numerous times before. At the end of all this, why bother with the test or continue with the experiment, since God is all knowing.
Imagination will often carry us to worlds that never were. But without it we go nowhere. - Carl Sagan
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#57
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
Quote:Must be the devils work!

Apparently!
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#58
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
(June 5, 2013 at 3:56 pm)ronedee Wrote:
(June 5, 2013 at 3:50 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: If education is a religion, consider me a lifelong parishioner.

LOL! I like a smart, honest Atheist! Funny too, w/o profanity!Big Grin

Err, thanks, I think?

I do agree with Stimbo though, I'm just a human. My atheism really doesn't mean much at all.
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RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
(June 6, 2013 at 7:50 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I do agree with Stimbo though, I'm just a human. My atheism really doesn't mean much at all.

So, you are a casual observer? Need a good laugh? Or, would you crossover as a result of good argument?

I mean Dawkins could out-atheist anyone here...but you would never see him here in the trenchs fighting tooth and nail against a Christian zealot!

Just trying to understand the motivation if "atheism doesn't matter"?
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#60
RE: In UK Islam is the Future and Christianity is the Past
(June 6, 2013 at 10:07 am)ronedee Wrote:
(June 6, 2013 at 7:50 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: I do agree with Stimbo though, I'm just a human. My atheism really doesn't mean much at all.

So, you are a casual observer? Need a good laugh? Or, would you crossover as a result of good argument?

I mean Dawkins could out-atheist anyone here...but you would never see him here in the trenchs fighting tooth and nail against a Christian zealot!

Just trying to understand the motivation if "atheism doesn't matter"?

You're a Catholic right? So you live your life based (at least in part, I presume?) on the teachings of the bible/church (be they dogmas, doctrines etc)? In that way, your religion is a massive part of your life, and influences the things that you do.

My atheism is simply a lack of belief in deities. I hold no dogmas, no doctrines, I live my life based on (as I see it) the societal norms that have come about through countless generations of societal (and human) evolution, and within the laws of the state I reside in (England).

I never think about deities or gods, because I have no concept of them, which after all is all my atheism is about. To put it another way, I also presume you don't believe in Santa, right? How often do you think about Santa? Same for me but with deities.

In all I am a pragmatist, in that any evidence for a claim will sway me to take it seriously and accept it as factual (at least until something comes along to disprove it). I hold my 'beliefs' in the here and now, and give little thought to things that 'might be' unless there's a body of evidence going forward to support it.

In a long winded way, my atheism doesn't define me, rather just a facet of me (i.e. my stance of belief on deities).
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