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Hello I Must Be Going!
#1
Hello I Must Be Going!
I don't know how long this will stay up? Hopefully the staff (a select group I am no longer a member of) believe in freedom of speech as much as I do, I guess we (or rather you) will see. Hopefully my year long tenure in this forum, my promotion to staff and subsequent poorly handled dismissal gains me the right to vent some kind of strong feeling (I wasn’t told formally that I’d been "retired" though to be fair I may have pre-empted Tiberius when he contacted me on MSN this afternoon with “I already know” … by that time this posting had already undergone 2 revisions)!

Anyway, I joined AtheistForums early October 2008 and despite a number of clashes with other members (theists of course) within a couple of months I was made moderator ... I was deeply flattered, it was known what I was like; it was discussed in private and yet it was still decided I was worth it. I doubt if any of you will ever really know how much it meant to me to be put in such a position of trust ... all I can say is that because of it I visited the forum many times a day (before I'd visit maybe once and then not always as I'd spend time in other forums and on other tasks), that I tried to post original posts, posts on developments in science, abuses in religion, humour, computing, music and much more besides (all in addition to attempting to carry out my moderator role) and as can be seen, at time of writing I am second highest poster in the forum, the second highest number of recommendations and my reputation points puts me third so, when I mean second I really do mean number 2, as I am not prone to posting stupid little comments ... anyway, to get to the point, it meant a lot to me.

Now because others have complained (primarily that snivelling little fuck Frodo who has waged a tactical war of complaint after complaint about me whilst dodging question after question, disingenuously accusing others of falsehood or otherwise claiming he has demonstrated things he hasn't) I have been *fired*. Now if that remark about Frodo doesn’t earn me a ban I don’t know what the fuck will … unless , of course (despite my undeniable antagonism towards the arrogant tosser), it’s because the staff and others see an element of truth in what I say? Who knows? I won’t because I’ll be long gone but it’s worth pointing out that though I’m not going willingly wankers like Frodo DRIVE ATHEISTS AWAY FROM FORUMS LIKE THIS! Anyway, the staff don't refer to it as *fired*, they refer to it as "retired" (which also refers to those who have voluntarily stopped being staff) but, dress it up anyway you like, a forcible (non-voluntary) retirement due to complaints made is being *fired*. I already know that some (Ev in particular which is more than a bit ironic) don't understand why I have to do this but as far as I am concerned, being *fired*is a serious slap in the face, fairly humiliating and something I have no intention of sticking around for especially while that odious little shit Frodo dances the cock-a-hoop and gloats over his victory (enjoy it while you can you disingenuous fuck).

It would be naïve of me to claim this is your loss ... I mean sure, I think it IS yours in the sense of my being a prodigious and fairly intelligent poster (even if I am aggressive I am currently second highest forum poster with many accolades, and indeed, criticisms of my posts so I can only assume I was of some interest, some value) but it is also mine, very much so, as I spent so much time here (50%, maybe more, of my online personal time as well as some of my less busy work time was spent in this place). My problem is, I suppose, that I court controversy, this isn’t the first forum I've left behind and it's unlikely to be the last but, unlike the Frodo's, the Arcanus's and the John Paul's of this world, I don't do devious ... I am utterly WYSIWYG (What You See Is What You Get), unlike them I don't seek to deceive, nor to win at any cost, whatever I say is said in the belief that it is correct and I try my damndest not to be divisive. I am, and nobody in their right mind will deny this (let alone me), aggressive and diplomacy to me is the art of saying "Nice Doggy" until I can find a large enough rock ... I would make an appalling politician because I just can't pretend I am not passionate about things, that I get wound up about things that mean a lot to me, that I can be that dishonest. People like Frodo can ... moreover people like Frodo understand EXACTLY how to push the buttons of people like me, it really isn't hard! Wherever I go on the internet (and even in real life) I court controversy, admittedly on a relatively small scale, and people don't often seem to stay neutral with respect to me for long ... they tend to either like me a lot or really really hate me. I'm fine with that ... I am uncompromisingly honest in my debating style but I am also vicious (some would say vitriolic) when it comes to people who cross me or mine or seek to deceive me and/or exploit others. Again people like Frodo know this, they know how to exploit it ... arguments that they start in subtle and insidious ways will come to be viewed as my fault because of my aggressive style and, as I say above, they know what fucking buttons to push!

I am what I am and I am proud of what I have become both in no longer having an off-the-shelf religious belief and in being able to objectively view almost anything but to cut to the chase ... despite the controversy, I believe I have been a good member here, that I have benefitted this forum far, far more than I have not; I believe I was good moderator and again benefitted the staff more than I didn't (the very same day Rhizo mentioned me to another moderator and Frodo started his latest round of anti-Kyu complaints Darwinian told me what a great job I'd been doing so I thank him for that) and yeah I know some people didn't like the way I've been doing things but that's life. There's even a few things like shhhhhh! that I am directly responsible for introducing here and will remain of use to a privileged few ... I will almost certainly introduce a similar style idea in my new forum which should be in place within a month or so.

I made it clear long ago that if I was ever banned I would leave. I made it clear this time round that if I was demoted from moderator against my will I would leave and that is the case so with some significant regret I am afraid I must be true to myself and do exactly that. Some (very few) of you will be unlucky enough to be kept on my contact lists (facebook or MSN) and fortunately I never bought a T-Shirt, or contributed any funds as I had intended to … it’s not that it’s not good but I couldn't wear it after this debacle). This has both plusses and minuses ... on the minus side there's a lot of you guys I will miss (ironically someone I thought I’d miss turned out to be someone I feel lucky to leave behind), I will miss my time here and I will miss the camaraderie that some of us had. I won't (as must surely be clear by now) miss that that snivelling little creep Frodo (there are few other terms that fit) and I'm genuinely sorry that you guys will still have to put up with the lying twat.

Good luck all and maybe some of you will choose to visit me in my new website, forum & blog when I build it ... it's only just registered so the site will take a while to register.

Kyu
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#2
RE: Hello I Must Be Going!
As a poster, you contributed a lot of great content to this forum. As a moderator I didn't really notice you(I guess that's a good thing?). It's too bad that one of our more intellectual posters is leaving, but c'est la vie.

I love your domain name, and I'll definitely be checking out your stuff.

All the best...
- Meatball
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#3
RE: Hello I Must Be Going!
Fuck Kyu, that's lame. You are the single coolest fucker on these boards.

Where will you be posting now(atheist wise)?
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#4
RE: Hello I Must Be Going!
We believe in freedom of speech Kyu, and part of that freedom gives me the right to respond.

On the day Rhizo complained about you, you posted this in the Staff forum:

Quote:If that's true then I need to seriously consider whether I wish to be a moderator any more ... as Ev says, I am here mostly for the "discussion" and if if it is perceived that I cannot do that in the way I want to do that and still be a moderator then I must choose between the two.

I think he has a point and I genuinely need to consider it ... anyone got any thoughts?

We talked about your lack of self-control, your constant use of the warning button which caused severe problems when innocent people complained about the abuse, even your initial promotion to moderator in the first place. You had the chance to talk to us, to dismiss or argue these claims, and to make your case. You were given every opportunity to remain and change your ways, or resign and become a normal member as you wanted.

Instead, you told us you'd let the staff talk about it and vote. You left for a week, telling us to make the decision, but making it very clear that if we voted to demote you, you would leave the forum. Every single one of us knew the outcome, what was in the balance, and I'd say most of us probably thought you would be true to your word. Knowing all of this though, you only managed to convince 2 out of 6 of us that keeping you was in the best interests of the forum. I won't reveal who any of those people were, but we all agreed on the course of action to take.

We told you we'd make you a retired member, and that we wouldn't announce anything to the forums about the reasons you "retired". We wanted you to stay, and we gave you the chance to be a normal member without losing any of your "pride" as you constantly referred to it.

So suffice to say, it was you who brought this upon yourself; you who decided to leave it up to us rather than talk about it, and you who acted like a child when the decision doesn't go your way. It didn't have to be this way Kyu, but you evidently decided you'd leave making as much noise as you could.
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#5
RE: Hello I Must Be Going!
You want to air it out in the open, well you get your wish, even if you probably won't come back to read this.

I stand by everything Tiberius just said. It became increasingly clear that you were abusing your power as moderator, I believe appropriate action was taken. You didn't make it any easier with your refusal to talk and childish demands to not be demoted or you would leave. Seriously, I've said it before and I'll say it again, the way you reacted to this situation was childish and still is.

As a moderator you need to be neutral and not let your emotions get the better of you, so your insistence that you "are the way you are" is ridiculous. I honestly would never have made you a moderator but that was not my decision to make.

I don't see how getting bent out of shape when people consistently disagree with you is a good thing. Most of us here can argue, and maybe it will get heated, but it's important, especially for a moderator, to be able to leave the argument at the end of the day, no hard feelings. No one's perfect at it, even I have made the mistake myself with Pippy a while back, but we need to admit when we're wrong and grow from it not bitch and complain. We may not like Fr0d0's stances and we may find him annoying at times but he didn't directly break the rules, and at the end of the day we have to stand by the rules.

Leave if you want, I honestly don't care for people who play childish games when they don't get their own way. Tiberius bent over backward to make you stay while still respecting the rules of the forum, I don't see why he should have bothered if this is how you repay him.
"The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason." Benjamin Franklin

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#6
RE: Hello I Must Be Going!
Well that's a real shame. It's honestly the last thing I'd ever want to happen. Very sad news Sad
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#7
RE: Hello I Must Be Going!
Bummer.

I'll miss the entertainment value Kyu brought to these boards. Sad
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#8
RE: Hello I Must Be Going!
I'm still fairly new so I don't know you (Kyuu) very well but I always did like you man. It is a shame that you invested so much time and effort only to end up leaving, but I guess you're moving on to greater things as they say.

It certainly was an honor being in the same community as you for the one month or so I've been around. Take good care, bro.
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#9
RE: Hello I Must Be Going!
Kyuu always interesting posts.

You will be missed.



You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.

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#10
RE: Hello I Must Be Going!
Bye Kyu,

You were an excellent member, and all your anger aside I think you're a great guy. It's a shame that you seemed unable to compartmentalize 'not being cut out for being a mod after all' and 'not wanted'. They aren't the same thing.

I personally would have wanted you to stay as a normal member after being demodded, but you made it very clear that you wouldn't stay if that happened. It really is just a shame that you see it that way because either case, mod or no mod, I think you were overall an excellent member and as I said, anger aside I think you were a great guy. Farewell, it's going to feel like a bit of an empty space in these forums for a while for me now, I'm so used to seeing your quality posts everywhere Sad

As a staff member though, one has to do their very best to put their feelings and what they think is best (and the rules)...apart.

Bye Kyu.

EvF
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