what is god actually

[Violet]

Bravo, my good friend I was rather wondering why you hadn't done this already... did I manage to instigate your response, or was it their doing?

[theblindferrengi]

that was in response to adrian

[fr0d0]

The Christian God is defined as outside of time - non temporal. So that doesn't fit.

[mike0001]

The Christian God is defined as outside of time - non temporal. So that doesn't fit.

Just because "outside of time" is grammatical english, doesn't mean it is meaningful.

[theblindferrengi]

does that not just mean the christian god is ageless?

[Tiberius]

In 1931 Lemaître went further and suggested that the evident expansion in forward time required that the universe contracted backwards in time, and would continue to do so until it could contract no further, bringing all the mass of the universe into a single point, a "primeval atom", at a point in time before which time and space did not exist. As such, at this point, the fabric of time and space had not yet come into existence.

This was what I was taught at school, what physicists I have read have continually stated, and what countless scientific programs have repeated.

The Big Bang was an expansion of spacetime, where time itself started ticking. If you want to watch a great program about it, I would point you to Prof Brian Cox's (possibly the next Richard Dawkins in public understanding of science) documentary "What time is it?".

So you admit the rest of your delusional post is all metaphorical, and therefore of no worthy point? Time is not all-knowing, it has no brain. Knowledge exists because of time, but only through the eyes of sentient beings. One could argue that space is all-knowing in the same way. Time is not all-powerful either; people use time to make themselves more powerful. Again, the same could be said of space. Your arguments are deeply flawed, and come across to me as particularly religious or even cultist in nature.

[fr0d0]

The Christian God is defined as outside of time - non temporal. So that doesn't fit.

Just because "outside of time" is grammatical english, doesn't mean it is meaningful.

Haha!

It's meaningful just not scientific

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does that not just mean the christian god is ageless?

Erm... 'just'? Wouldn't ageless still infer inside time?

[Edwardo Piet]

the only thing remotely close to what god is suposedly, that exists or has the posibility of existing is: time, and time fits quite a few of the charachteristics god is explained as;

Let's see then...

all knowing,

How does "Time" 'know' things? What do you mean by "time is all knowing"? Clocks are super-intelligent? Are you telling me that Big Ben knows where we live? How can time itself 'know things'?

no begining no end

How do you know that it won't end? How do you know that time won't stop passing?

is everywhere

Where would one find it? Isn't time what has passed, what is passing and what will? Does it even have a location other than our own concept of if passing? If it exists at all it exists as what has passed, what is passing, and what will, right? And I'm not sure that that counts as existence?? Is that something that can really...'exist'?...what 'has been' and what 'will be'?

is all powerful

All powerful in what way? What do you mean? It is omnipotent? Time is something that can do anything? I don't think time is a thing is it? It's not something hence, in what sense does it exist? I ask. See above.

nobody understands etc.

You mean 100%? We don't understand anything 100%, or at least if we did, how would we know we did?

There are theories of space time and the like (I don't really know much about them), we certainly understand it to some extent. But in what sense do you mean?

The questions about whether time is really a 'thing', whether it's something that can exist - I really would like a response to from whoever, I've talked about this before - with mixed viewpoints.

EvF

[theblindferrengi]

[Tiberius]