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Women rights in Islam
#11
RE: Women rights in Islam
Sura 2 says that when being a witness 2 woman are worth 1 man.
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#12
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(June 9, 2013 at 7:06 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Islam is not about equality it is about Justice

What is justice, by your standards?
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#13
RE: Women rights in Islam
Men can do what they like, but women need permission to work, talk to other men, breathe, etc..
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#14
RE: Women rights in Islam
(June 9, 2013 at 4:30 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Men can do what they like, but women need permission to work, talk to other men, breathe, etc..
Sorry but you are mistaken
There is no restriction in Islam about work, education or speech.

However men and women in Islam are not allowed to flirt or seduce each other except for the purpose of marriage.

The same punishment for adultery applies equally on them

(June 9, 2013 at 12:33 pm)Savannahw Wrote: Sura 2 says that when being a witness 2 woman are worth 1 man.
Yes, this is regarding financial and political issues
It has two purposes
1- to keep women a bit away from those issues
2- Because women don't think the same as men (usually more emotional)

Do you think that this point is an important issue for you (as a women) or it is only the matter of equality that you consider.

(June 9, 2013 at 12:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Islam is not about equality it is about Justice

Then f... islam.
You in your own life don't apply equality!

If you are an employee; do you get the same salary as the CEO?
If you are an owner do you give all people the same salary?
NO, because they have different qualifications

It is the same in Islam, women have different qualifications than men, sometimes more sometimes less, that is why they are different.

(June 9, 2013 at 11:26 am)paulpablo Wrote: It gives husbands the right to beat their wives if they fear rebellion from their wives.
Yes, so we put 1 point for Men

Men 1
Women 0

(June 9, 2013 at 7:28 am)festive1 Wrote: I think a person should inherit whatever is left to them. Whether they have a penis or not, doesn't even enter the equation. So if a woman gets less, simply because she lacks a penis, then yes, that is unequal treatment. How is this "justice," since women are the ones left raising the kids in the event of a husband's death?
Your information is wrong.
While women inherits half
Men are obligated to spend (all) on her, either husband, father, brother or next of keen
So it is actually in favor of women not men
What she inherits is for her to keep, while all of her expenses are to be covered by her husband or father!
I think we should be put 2 for women and 1 for men for this point!
Men 2
Women 2

Raising children (financially) is the father duty
Custody is for boys up to 9 with mother, girls up to 11, then to father
(unless they agree on some other arrangements)

Quote:Why should she inherit less than the man's brother? Or should she marry the brother as well? That's rather demeaning and treating her like property rather than a partner.
There is nothing about that in Islam (I think it is in Hindu not Islam)
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RE: Women rights in Islam
You and your dark age views are beyond contempt.
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RE: Women rights in Islam
Quote:Yes, this is regarding financial and political issues
It has two purposes
1- to keep women a bit away from those issues
2- Because women don't think the same as men (usually more emotional)

Do you think that this point is an important issue for you (as a women) or it is only the matter of equality that you consider.

I do see it as an important issue. Mostly because you use it as justification for your two points above. I disagree with that. There is no reason women can't be in a political or financial situation. While I agree that woman and men don't think the same, I disagree that it is more emotionally. It is just different. Different isn't wrong it is just different.
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#17
RE: Women rights in Islam
Men are allowed to FORCE their wives to have intercourse without their consent (what we in Australia view as RAPE).

Women's testimony is not equal in court.
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RE: Women rights in Islam
(June 10, 2013 at 8:24 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Sorry but you are mistaken
There is no restriction in Islam about work, education or speech.
I beg to differ. I happen to know for a fact that in Islam, women are resricted when it comes to employment. A husband can stop his wife from working if he feels it could cause her to neglect her role as a wife and/or mother, or even if they are financially stable and he decides they don't need her to work. I also know he can restrict her to jobs where she can only work from home. So don't give me that shit, I know a lot about Islam. The fact that very few Muslims (in my country at least) actually impose these restrictions only goes to show how stupid they [the restrictions] actually are. Smile

As for education, Muslims are wonderful for making sure their children, both male and female, are educated (in certain areas) to a very high standard. I never implied any different and never would.

(June 10, 2013 at 8:24 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: However men and women in Islam are not allowed to flirt or seduce each other except for the purpose of marriage.

The same punishment for adultery applies equally on them
Are the men and women treated equally in that situation.
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#19
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Quote: It gives husbands the right to beat their wives if they fear rebellion from their wives.

Yes, so we put 1 point for Men

Men 1
Women 0

I think being able to admonish someone then beat, scourge, strike someone, whenever you fear rebellion from them is a bit more than a 1-0 advantage.


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#20
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So where did all the misogyny in Islamic nations come from/what is reinforcing women as lesser beings in those places?
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