Sura 2 says that when being a witness 2 woman are worth 1 man.
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Women rights in Islam
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(June 9, 2013 at 7:06 am)Muslim Scholar Wrote: Islam is not about equality it is about Justice What is justice, by your standards? ronedee Wrote:Science doesn't have a good explaination for water
Men can do what they like, but women need permission to work, talk to other men, breathe, etc..
RE: Women rights in Islam
June 10, 2013 at 8:24 am
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(June 9, 2013 at 4:30 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: Men can do what they like, but women need permission to work, talk to other men, breathe, etc..Sorry but you are mistaken There is no restriction in Islam about work, education or speech. However men and women in Islam are not allowed to flirt or seduce each other except for the purpose of marriage. The same punishment for adultery applies equally on them (June 9, 2013 at 12:33 pm)Savannahw Wrote: Sura 2 says that when being a witness 2 woman are worth 1 man.Yes, this is regarding financial and political issues It has two purposes 1- to keep women a bit away from those issues 2- Because women don't think the same as men (usually more emotional) Do you think that this point is an important issue for you (as a women) or it is only the matter of equality that you consider. (June 9, 2013 at 12:21 pm)Minimalist Wrote:You in your own life don't apply equality!Quote:Islam is not about equality it is about Justice If you are an employee; do you get the same salary as the CEO? If you are an owner do you give all people the same salary? NO, because they have different qualifications It is the same in Islam, women have different qualifications than men, sometimes more sometimes less, that is why they are different. (June 9, 2013 at 11:26 am)paulpablo Wrote: It gives husbands the right to beat their wives if they fear rebellion from their wives.Yes, so we put 1 point for Men Men 1 Women 0 (June 9, 2013 at 7:28 am)festive1 Wrote: I think a person should inherit whatever is left to them. Whether they have a penis or not, doesn't even enter the equation. So if a woman gets less, simply because she lacks a penis, then yes, that is unequal treatment. How is this "justice," since women are the ones left raising the kids in the event of a husband's death?Your information is wrong. While women inherits half Men are obligated to spend (all) on her, either husband, father, brother or next of keen So it is actually in favor of women not men What she inherits is for her to keep, while all of her expenses are to be covered by her husband or father! I think we should be put 2 for women and 1 for men for this point! Men 2 Women 2 Raising children (financially) is the father duty Custody is for boys up to 9 with mother, girls up to 11, then to father (unless they agree on some other arrangements) Quote:Why should she inherit less than the man's brother? Or should she marry the brother as well? That's rather demeaning and treating her like property rather than a partner.There is nothing about that in Islam (I think it is in Hindu not Islam)
You and your dark age views are beyond contempt.
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Quote:Yes, this is regarding financial and political issues I do see it as an important issue. Mostly because you use it as justification for your two points above. I disagree with that. There is no reason women can't be in a political or financial situation. While I agree that woman and men don't think the same, I disagree that it is more emotionally. It is just different. Different isn't wrong it is just different.
Men are allowed to FORCE their wives to have intercourse without their consent (what we in Australia view as RAPE).
Women's testimony is not equal in court.
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June 10, 2013 at 11:13 am
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So where did all the misogyny in Islamic nations come from/what is reinforcing women as lesser beings in those places?
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