Women rights in Islam

[Muslim Scholar]

So if god is like a company owner and Islam is correct then god has only been giving out the correct company policy advice to a relatively small amount of his entire company (Muslims) over a relatively small period of time , the majority of the world meanwhile has been worshiping false gods, committing shirk, human sacrifices and war.

The religion of God is not only Islam
God sent many prophets to mankind
(24,000 prophets with 315 out of them as messengers)
Islam is the last religion and it should be communicated to all people by muslims

A person who didn't get the message will not go to Hell, but he will be tested in the day of justice

let's not forget that even within followers of his own company policy booklet lots and lots of them have misread it supposedly. Resulting in acid being thrown into womens faces, the twin towers going down, stabbings, bombings, beatings of women and so on.

Not all Muslims will go to Paradise,
Sinners who are not forgiven will go to Hell (for sometime)

[Dragonetti]

Sometime? WTF Still able to get in. Also, that is subjective of what you interpret as a Sin, and of course you can be forgiven. So, heaven will have rapist, child molesters, murderers, and Bacha Bazi.

Messengers is pathetic! Why not just send his message directly, if he/she/it is all powerful? Why send other normal men? And why always men? I will tell, this is how con-artist operate! They have a message given to them and only them. They spread it for control or money. People are suckers!

[Mystical]

I just went through every page of this horrendously pathetic thread and I don't see a single mathematical proof. Someone please link it, I would like to laugh at it uncontrollably while I pump some breast milk.

Proof of God existence

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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent.

It is not like that because the existence of Evil is not bad by itself
The existence of evil choice is the reason for being good,

God will reward believers based on their choice between good and bad
without the bad/evil choice there is no point of rewarding good doers

Take an example
If you own a company and put an incentives system to reward everybody, then you are an idiot without relating incentives (and punishments) to actions and performance.


If God really did that and saved everybody into paradise
then Atheists will say, What a .... God, there is no point of believing in him, so he doesn't exist

I'm going to be blunt. Your proof for god isn't proof. Nor is it a mathematical proof, nor is it in any way even close to the field of mathematics. Maybe it goes over well where you live, but I've been to school where real math is taught.
What kind of tests must one endure if they're nonbelievers and go to judgement in your doctrine?
My signature still stands, you didn't make a single valid or coherent point to refute it.

[Thor]

However Islam doesn't treat women as men
Islam is not about equality it is about Justice

For example a woman inherits half the share of a man (if a parent dies for example)
Do you think that Islam persecute women by this law?

I've been to Disney World where I've seen Muslim families on vacation. It's 95 degrees and humid... the men are dressed in shorts, sandals and T shirts. They're very comfortable. The women are covered from head to toe and are no doubt very UNCOMFORTABLE. I also remember seeing a Muslim family having lunch. The husband could easily eat his food. The wife had to lift a veil so she could eat and drink. This is your idea of "justice"? It's absolutely moronic! Any religion that would treat women in such a fashion has no place in this world.

[Muslim Scholar]

I've been to Disney World where I've seen Muslim families on vacation. It's 95 degrees and humid... the men are dressed in shorts, sandals and T shirts. They're very comfortable. The women are covered from head to toe and are no doubt very UNCOMFORTABLE. I also remember seeing a Muslim family having lunch. The husband could easily eat his food. The wife had to lift a veil so she could eat and drink. This is your idea of "justice"? It's absolutely moronic! Any religion that would treat women in such a fashion has no place in this world.

So your men should wear Bikinis and women should be topless

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Your proof for god isn't proof. Nor is it a mathematical proof, nor is it in any way even close to the field of mathematics. Maybe it goes over well where you live, but I've been to school where real math is taught.

If you know anything about math, then a proof is not refuted by general statement

I can say that you words are nothing as well!

A proof is refuted by disproving a premises or disproving a logical step in it.

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Sometime? WTF Still able to get in. Also, that is subjective of what you interpret as a Sin, and of course you can be forgiven. So, heaven will have rapist, child molesters, murderers, and Bacha Bazi.

Yes, of course, it is called Merci

Messengers is pathetic! Why not just send his message directly, if he/she/it is all powerful? Why send other normal men? And why always men? I will tell, this is how con-artist operate! They have a message given to them and only them. They spread it for control or money. People are suckers!

You are a slave, you don't ask God why, you are allowed only to ask what should I do
This is your problem, it is not about proofs it is about attitude.

[festive1]

Muslim Scholar, I'd love for you to check out this thread and weigh in: http://atheistforums.org/thread-19589.html

[pineapplebunnybounce]

I've been to Disney World where I've seen Muslim families on vacation. It's 95 degrees and humid... the men are dressed in shorts, sandals and T shirts. They're very comfortable. The women are covered from head to toe and are no doubt very UNCOMFORTABLE. I also remember seeing a Muslim family having lunch. The husband could easily eat his food. The wife had to lift a veil so she could eat and drink. This is your idea of "justice"? It's absolutely moronic! Any religion that would treat women in such a fashion has no place in this world.

So your men should wear Bikinis and women should be topless

Don't be silly, the mankini was made so that men don't have to wear bikinis and attract stares.

[Thor]

I've been to Disney World where I've seen Muslim families on vacation. It's 95 degrees and humid... the men are dressed in shorts, sandals and T shirts. They're very comfortable. The women are covered from head to toe and are no doubt very UNCOMFORTABLE. I also remember seeing a Muslim family having lunch. The husband could easily eat his food. The wife had to lift a veil so she could eat and drink. This is your idea of "justice"? It's absolutely moronic! Any religion that would treat women in such a fashion has no place in this world.

So your men should wear Bikinis and women should be topless

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What a moronic reply. I'm talking about women being forced nto wear sacks over their heads while the men can wear whatever the damn hell they please, and you come back with some idiocy about women going topless?

Why don't YOU wear a damn sack over your head when it's 95 degrees and humid? See how you like it!

[paulpablo]

So if god is like a company owner and Islam is correct then god has only been giving out the correct company policy advice to a relatively small amount of his entire company (Muslims) over a relatively small period of time , the majority of the world meanwhile has been worshiping false gods, committing shirk, human sacrifices and war.

The religion of God is not only Islam
God sent many prophets to mankind
(24,000 prophets with 315 out of them as messengers)
Islam is the last religion and it should be communicated to all people by muslims

A person who didn't get the message will not go to Hell, but he will be tested in the day of justice

let's not forget that even within followers of his own company policy booklet lots and lots of them have misread it supposedly. Resulting in acid being thrown into womens faces, the twin towers going down, stabbings, bombings, beatings of women and so on.

Not all Muslims will go to Paradise,
Sinners who are not forgiven will go to Hell (for sometime)

So then people who misread the quran, or can't read arabic, they will just be tested on the final day? Just like the Islamic terrorists who misread the quran supposedly?

[Something completely different]

I think muslim scholar has recognised what his image here is and left.



Or at least it is what I hope.