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Women rights in Islam
RE: Women rights in Islam
(November 16, 2013 at 10:01 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Homosexuality is a choice.

Incorrect.

(November 16, 2013 at 10:01 pm)Sleepy Wrote: It is against evolution.

Poppycock.

(November 16, 2013 at 10:01 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Homosexuality is against reproduction.

Sterile heterosexual couples are also against reproduction, your point?
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RE: Women rights in Islam
Hey sleepy, don't ignore me! If being gay is a choice, why don't you try it?
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(November 16, 2013 at 10:11 pm)Sleepy Wrote: I failed to mention how species are meant to reproduce and there is no reproduction with gays? No I clearly said that.

You failed to mention why this is a problem on an overpopulated planet, you failed to mention how being gay is bad and yet being celibate or choosing not to have kids or having a vasectomy isn't, and you failed to mention how- picking just one alternative path- surrogate children don't count.

Pretty much failure all around, Sleepy. Honk.
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RE: Women rights in Islam
(November 16, 2013 at 10:11 pm)Sleepy Wrote: I failed to mention how species are meant to reproduce and there is no reproduction with gays? No I clearly said that.

Yeah and for all that argument is worth, you might as well have jizzed onto your keyboard.
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RE: Women rights in Islam
(November 16, 2013 at 10:17 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(November 16, 2013 at 10:11 pm)Sleepy Wrote: I failed to mention how species are meant to reproduce and there is no reproduction with gays? No I clearly said that.

You failed to mention why this is a problem on an overpopulated planet, you failed to mention how being gay is bad and yet being celibate or choosing not to have kids or having a vasectomy isn't, and you failed to mention how- picking just one alternative path- surrogate children don't count.

Pretty much failure all around, Sleepy. Honk.

If a woman and man decide to have only one child that's fine. With gays there is option of having children. Celibacy is bad as well, choosing not to have kids is bad as well, and vasectomy's are bad and pointless as well. Surrogate children is bad as well as you should only impregnate your wife. Now obviously this is all insane thinking to you which is perfectly find with me if you want to think that.
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(November 16, 2013 at 10:24 pm)Sleepy Wrote: With gays there is option of having children.

I know there is. It is called adoption, especially when foster homes are overrun with unwanted children. Tiger
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(November 16, 2013 at 10:01 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Homosexuality is a choice.

*blinks*

Really? So I can simply make a choice whether I'm sexually attracted to boobs versus boners?

Fascinating. Hey, today be attracted to dudes. Every time you see a cute one get all aroused. Then, tomorrow choose to only be attracted to chicks.

Flip back and forth like that every day. One day get all twitterpatted when Greg smiles at you. The next day think he's gross and only get bashful when Sheila smiles at you.

(November 16, 2013 at 10:01 pm)Sleepy Wrote: It is against evolution.

Incorrect. No matter the culture, place, or any other variables, roughly 8 percent of all homo sapiens are homosexual. If this was an aberration that did not increase the survivability of our species, it would rapidly decrease. Yet it stays steady. Has so for millennia, no doubt will continue to do so as long as our species exists.

This means it is an evolutionary adaptation of our species that increases our fitness as a group.

(November 16, 2013 at 10:01 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Homosexuality is against reproduction. Reproduction is the survival of a species.

Reproduction is PART of the survival of a species. Our particular species has evolved the requirement of needing a very long period of time after we are born to grow up.

More than any other species. We coddle and provide for our young for ages and ages.

In a small hunter/gatherer group, having a subset of your population that was not generating more young mouths to feed but were instead able to assist other adults that were raising young would be a great benefit.


(November 16, 2013 at 10:01 pm)Sleepy Wrote: Those acts are abominations which are anti species, for example killing.

Our species' only real advantage is intelligence. You are obviously an abomination to this advantage and "anti species" to our species.

In other words, you're dumb.
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(November 16, 2013 at 10:24 pm)Sleepy Wrote: If a woman and man decide to have only one child that's fine. With gays there is option of having children. Celibacy is bad as well, choosing not to have kids is bad as well, and vasectomy's are bad and pointless as well. Surrogate children is bad as well as you should only impregnate your wife. Now obviously this is all insane thinking to you which is perfectly find with me if you want to think that.

Golly gee, thanks for your permission.

Strangely, you still haven't provided an argument, beyond "people should have kids," which is more of an assertion than an argument. Why should we all be having more kids, in a stably populated planet that already has too many people? What's bad about impregnating someone you're not married to, inherently?

Don't make me Shoosh-Pap you again.
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Homosexuality is not the thoughts. It's the action. Sterile couples have medical issues, they don't make that a choice. You're illogical and sound like a complete fool.
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RE: Women rights in Islam
(November 16, 2013 at 10:30 pm)Rahul Wrote: *blinks*

Really? So I can simply make a choice whether I'm sexually attracted to boobs versus boners?

Fascinating. Hey, today be attracted to dudes. Every time you see a cute one get all aroused. Then, tomorrow choose to only be attracted to chicks.

Flip back and forth like that every day. One day get all twitterpatted when Greg smiles at you. The next day think he's gross and only get bashful when Sheila smiles at you.

You'll never have to worry about having a date if you do that...
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