If you believe in the God of the Bible, why try to prove it logically?

[fr0d0]

And you keep denying it as if it isn't written in your Bible. And that is just sad.

Killing and taking wives I don't deny (the words that you quote)

Murder and rape (the words that you magic out of thin air) I deny, sure.

Can this be any clearer?

[JesusIsAlive]

If you believe in God of the Bible as well as His only befitted Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit. There is nothing to prove. Abiding and desiring in His word will bring about grace. A city on top of a hill cannot be hidden.

[orogenicman]

And you keep denying it as if it isn't written in your Bible. And that is just sad.

Killing and taking wives I don't deny (the words that you quote)

Murder and rape (the words that you magic out of thin air) I deny, sure.

Can this be any clearer?

So, using your biblical logic, the man in Ohio who kidnapped three young women and raped them for years is your hero, after all, taking women against their will and making them 'wives' is a perfectly reasonable and justifiable thing to do. Using your biblical logic, once we invaded Iraq, it would have been just fine if we had killed their women and children (after all, it isn't murder in the eyes of your god).

"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and tortuous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we call it the word of a demon than the word of a God. It is a history of wickedness that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind; and, for my part, I sincerely detest it, as I detest everything that is cruel."

- Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason

[fr0d0]

I see how far you're having to stretch the truth here orogenicman. Lets talk about a completely different and unrelated subject and just maybe, if we sprinkle some pixie dust on it the opposing example will change into what you want it to. are you a fantasist in any other subject or is it just religion?

I'm tired of this. You're obviously going to argue until you are blue in the face that black is white. I am dissapointed frankly.

[Zen Badger]

I see how far you're having to stretch the truth here orogenicman. Lets talk about a completely different and unrelated subject and just maybe, if we sprinkle some pixie dust on it the opposing example will change into what you want it to. are you a fantasist in any other subject or is it just religion?

I'm tired of this. You're obviously going to argue until you are blue in the face that black is white. I am dissapointed frankly.

So how is he wrong Frods?

We can quote any number of passages where god commands the deaths od thousands.

[orogenicman]

I see how far you're having to stretch the truth here orogenicman.

Apparently you don't see at all. I've made no false statements here, nor have I stretched the truth.

Lets talk about a completely different and unrelated subject and just maybe, if we sprinkle some pixie dust on it the opposing example will change into what you want it to. are you a fantasist in any other subject or is it just religion?

Why do you want to change the subject? Can't handle the subject being discussed, or what?

I'm tired of this. You're obviously going to argue until you are blue in the face that black is white. I am dissapointed frankly.

Perhaps you should refrain from posting bullshit, then.

[Esquilax]

Killing and taking wives I don't deny (the words that you quote)

Murder and rape (the words that you magic out of thin air) I deny, sure.

Can this be any clearer?

Yep, that shit is aneurysm-making clear!

At least now we know we don't have to talk you anymore, on account of you being a drone that converses in nothing but doublespeak.

[Godscreated]

You too lol. If no one was raped according to the evidence you are presenting how am I supposed to be defending rape?

Are you seriously reading words that aren't there? Is that the extent of your delusion?

I'm finding this unbelievable. How many times can you guys argue that black is white.

And you keep denying it as if it isn't written in your Bible. And that is just sad.

What verses are you saying God commanded rape, please supply those so we can debate them.

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I see how far you're having to stretch the truth here orogenicman. Lets talk about a completely different and unrelated subject and just maybe, if we sprinkle some pixie dust on it the opposing example will change into what you want it to. are you a fantasist in any other subject or is it just religion?

I'm tired of this. You're obviously going to argue until you are blue in the face that black is white. I am dissapointed frankly.

So how is he wrong Frods?

We can quote any number of passages where god commands the deaths od thousands.

Only after the judgment of said people, God is the creator and perfect God and has the right to judge His creation and then pass judgement.

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I see how far you're having to stretch the truth here orogenicman.

Apparently you don't see at all. I've made no false statements here, nor have I stretched the truth.

I agree you have not stretched the truth, you've turned the truth around to make a lie.

[orogenicman]

And you keep denying it as if it isn't written in your Bible. And that is just sad.

What verses are you saying God commanded rape, please supply those so we can debate them.

I'm not going to regurgitate them every time someone is too lazy to read a thread. Read the thread or bug out.

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So how is he wrong Frods?

We can quote any number of passages where god commands the deaths od thousands.

Only after the judgment of said people, God is the creator and perfect God and has the right to judge His creation and then pass judgement.

If your god is so perfect, how is it that he created people so badly that he has had to , according to biblical texts, commit genocide in order to correct his mistake? The fact of the matter is that throughout history people have been sufficiently ignorant to believe that natural disasters were the work of a vindictive god seeking to punish his sinful children. And that throughout history people have been sufficiently ignorant that their leaders can manipulate them into committing all kinds of hideous atrocities. Fully half of the Bible describes such barbarism in detail. In fact, one could argue that the Bible is a textbook for eliciting such behavior in people.

Worship that? Not even with your brain would I do such a thing.

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Apparently you don't see at all. I've made no false statements here, nor have I stretched the truth.

I agree you have not stretched the truth, you've turned the truth around to make a lie.

So you are calling me a liar, then. Anyone on the forum can read what I posted so let's ask them, shall we?

[Godscreated]

@ orogeicman

Show me where God calls for murder and rape, you're the one who said
He did so show us, those verses you used do not say anything about murder and rape.
You need to bring on some new ones and please use those that say murder and rape,
if you can't please stop wasting our time.