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RE: Fucking Cops
September 1, 2014 at 8:22 pm
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http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/01/po...fast-trip/
At least no one got killed.....
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Um, Brakes....from your own link:
Quote:Thirty-five years ago, a Texas jury convicted Jerry Hartfield of capital murder and sentenced him to death. On appeal, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals unanimously reversed his conviction and sentence. The court remanded the case to the state trial court with instructions to hold a new trial. That trial has yet to occur.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 1, 2014 at 8:41 pm
(September 1, 2014 at 8:22 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Um, Brakes....from your own link:
Quote:Thirty-five years ago, a Texas jury convicted Jerry Hartfield of capital murder and sentenced him to death. On appeal, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals unanimously reversed his conviction and sentence. The court remanded the case to the state trial court with instructions to hold a new trial. That trial has yet to occur.
I thought that I made that clear enough, the court only reversed the conviction because in the same jurors must used to decide the sentencing. The issue with the one juror only concerned sentencing, absolutely nothing was in question about the conviction itself.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 2, 2014 at 11:32 am
Semantics. They did reverse the conviction and the sentencing and have kept the guy in prison without trial.
Moving on..... apparently these fuckers were trying to be "helpful."
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/02/ok...h-a-knife/
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Quote:Police ordered the man to drop the weapon, and they shot him multiple times after he refused.
Without knowing....and I am going to research it right now....I bet the guy was a minority.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 2, 2014 at 12:55 pm
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(September 2, 2014 at 11:32 am)Minimalist Wrote: Semantics. They did reverse the conviction and the sentencing and have kept the guy in prison without trial.
No, it's not "semantics." The news stories read to audiences as if a poor man was wrongly convicted, thus the reversal, and imprisoned without trial, which is horrible.
But the facts of the case is that he is a murderer whose lawyers have found a minor problem with one excluded juror over the death sentence and convinced an appeals judge to throw out the expensive trial over a death penalty sentencing issue that is now a mute point now that the death sentence had been commuted to life by the governor. The man's case does not warrant any sympathy at all.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 2, 2014 at 2:26 pm
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No sympathy,-Okay, but I don't want to see any tears when you or someone you -do- sympathize for is denied due process for 30 some odd years behind bars ..... without a standing conviction or sentence,
and called a "insert derogatory reference to the crime they are being held for"-as though it were some sort of justification for such an immense fuckup.
Deal?
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 2, 2014 at 2:58 pm
Cops:
Doing the bidding of the propertied classes since, like, forever.
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/09...ays-rally/
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 2, 2014 at 4:02 pm
(September 2, 2014 at 12:55 pm)Brakeman Wrote: (September 2, 2014 at 11:32 am)Minimalist Wrote: Semantics. They did reverse the conviction and the sentencing and have kept the guy in prison without trial.
No, it's not "semantics." The news stories read to audiences as if a poor man was wrongly convicted, thus the reversal, and imprisoned without trial, which is horrible.
But the facts of the case is that he is a murderer whose lawyers have found a minor problem with one excluded juror over the death sentence and convinced an appeals judge to throw out the expensive trial over a death penalty sentencing issue that is now a mute point now that the death sentence had been commuted to life by the governor. The man's case does not warrant any sympathy at all.
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This drives me crazy. The word is "moot". Please don't use words unless you understand them completely.
That said, I see where you're both coming from. The thing is, the conviction was overturned, guilty or otherwise, and the guy is still sitting in jail. Sucks that it was overturned if he actually was guilty of the crime, but our justice system is such that he shouldn't be in jail.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 3, 2014 at 10:01 am
Maybe he meant mute as in ineffable?
But some of this sort of crossing up of word choice seems like overly fussy tidiness. I occasionally will use the a homonym when I'm writing fast. It isn't that I don't know the difference. It just happens when I'm more intent on what I want to say than how I'm saying it. I don't like it. I fix it when I notice it. But .. meh.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 3, 2014 at 12:22 pm
Brakes, they were told...by a fucking Texas court no less...that the conviction was vacated and they should do a new trial AND THEY HAVE NOT.
You are splitting cunt hairs here trying to avoid the clear result of the appeals court ruling.
And while we are on the subject...more or less.... here's another guy who doesn't get it.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/03/oh...he-system/
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“Trust the system,” DeWine said. “There will be ample time later for people to criticize what is done, and I’m fully aware of that, but let the judicial process work.”
The problem is that no one trusts the system and shitheads like DeWine and a couple of trigger happy cops are part of the problem.
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RE: Fucking Cops
September 3, 2014 at 11:35 pm
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/28...ng-pockets
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