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Government Makes Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
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Government Makes Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
We all know based on principle that the Government is simply a violent monopoly- and whenever violence is used 'for' something, the opposite will be achieved.

"We, the Government shall wage war on drugs!" - recreational drug use increases.

"We, the Government shall wage war on poverty!" - wealth gap increases.

"We, the Government shall wage war on terror!" - hundreds of thousands of middle eastern innocent civilians killed.

"We, the Government shall wage war on unemployment" - Youth unemployment increases.

You see, whatever a sociopath claims to want, is the opposite of what will happen. The government will sniff out what people want, and it will never, ever, ever give it to them. Whatever buys the vote and support is what the government cares about, so they will create parties to please each sort of demographic and exploit them for more power.

If I was sadistic, I couldn't think of a better system than socialism to make poor people poorer.

In countries with the biggest amount of violence, the bigger the wealth gap is. North Korea for instance is categorically the most brutal form of government today. An estimated 1/10 people in North Korea die of starvation, yet the ruler of the cartel, Kim Jong Un is estimated to be a multi-billionaire, within 4-5$B range.

The Chinese communist party, comprised of millionaires and billionaires - Mao's daughter, confirmed to be a billionaire:

http://behindthewall.nbcnews.com/_news/2...-list?lite

Hugo Chavez is a similiar case, with a wealth estimated in the multi billions. Then going on to talk about how they 'fight for average people' - People in government are always, always lying.

And in western countries today, people think along these lines; "If we just vote for more rights to be taken away from people, society will be good!" it's just so sad. It's a desperate display of people chipping way at their raft in the middle of a sea. And when all the money is stolen and plundered by the government, the government will inevitably run out of money and collapse in on itself, dropping off the weakest members of society into the deep end.

Violence never achieves productivity. Logically, mathematically, and universally. The only way for wealth to be created for everyone is in a free market, free from violence and corruption, where everyone truly has a chance to prosper.



The only freedom, is freedom from illusion.
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#2
RE: Government Makes Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
I politely ask for a source.
You make A LOT of claims about government. Can you show us where you get your information?
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RE: Government Makes Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
(July 2, 2013 at 3:02 pm)Savannahw Wrote: I politely ask for a source.
You make A LOT of claims about government. Can you show us where you get your information?
I don't think it's possible to link to the inside of one's own ass.
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RE: Government Makes Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
So what you're saying is you're really not a fan of the whole government thing.
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RE: Government Makes Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
(July 2, 2013 at 4:29 pm)Ryantology Wrote: So what you're saying is you're really not a fan of the whole government thing.

No, it's got nothing to do with my preferences or desires. The initiation of violence is wrong and will make everything worse. The government just happens to have a monopoly on violence.
The only freedom, is freedom from illusion.
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RE: Government Makes Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
(July 2, 2013 at 5:08 pm)Koolay Wrote: No, it's got nothing to do with my preferences or desires. The initiation of violence is wrong and will make everything worse. The government just happens to have a monopoly on violence.

Wrong. It has a monopoly on force, to inforce the law.

If the executive branch of a goverment wouldn`t exist and the possition of inforcing law were up to grabs, everyone would interpret and therefor inforce the law as they see it fit - hence chaos.

Now fuck off.
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RE: Government Makes Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
(July 2, 2013 at 3:02 pm)Savannahw Wrote: I politely ask for a source.
You make A LOT of claims about government. Can you show us where you get your information?

I don't make any claims about government, the facts are out their in plain sight by experts in the field(s) in question. You just need to do a google search. Do I need to do that for you? If you are really curious you can find out about this stuff pretty easy, it's well documented. Or are you just trying to stall and distract from talking from first principle?
The only freedom, is freedom from illusion.
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RE: Government Makes Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
First of all, when I posted that you didn't have any links in your op.
Secondly, your opinions about government are cliams. They are your opinions.
Also if you want to convince me of a position that I disagree with, you need to bring proof. You need to site a credible source. If that means you have to google something go ahead.
Another thing, when you use quotes, you need a source. That is something you learn in comp101.

You remind me of a fundy. You post over and over about the same thing without engaging in a conversation. You just want to argue. It's lame.
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RE: Government Makes Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
(July 2, 2013 at 5:22 pm)Savannahw Wrote: Also if you want to convince me of a position that I disagree with, you need to bring proof.

I don't need to scramble around, finding articles for every little thing I say, when what I am saying is so blatantly obvious. Initiation of violence makes things worse: It's the 21st century, It's shocking that I even need to say it.
The only freedom, is freedom from illusion.
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RE: Government Makes Rich Richer, Poor Poorer
If you feel you don't need to show proof, don't expect anyone to agree with you. You position is not a common position. It is NOT obvious. If you think it is prove it. I triple double dog dare you.
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