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The One And Only
July 3, 2013 at 6:23 pm
Clearly, each theists believes wholeheartedly that he has the evidence to support the existence of his deity. He claims to know that his god is real.
Out of the thousands of deities, there are millions of people who favor one over another and claim that the others are not real.
If Christians claim to have as much proof and conviction for the existence of their god as Muslims claim to have for the existence of Allah, who is one from either religion to claim that the other is wrong?
If a Christian can reach a logical conclusion that other deities are myth, what prevents them from knowing that their own god is also myth? After all, Muslims use exactly the same logic to dismiss the Christian god as Christians use to dismiss Allah.
What would it take for a Christian who realizes that countless other gods are not real to also come to the logical conclusion that the likelihood of the Christian god being real is just as unlikely?
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RE: The One And Only
July 3, 2013 at 7:05 pm
I'll answer for them. "God revealed himself to me through my faith. I know because of my personal relationship with Jesus."
Pesonal Revelation
Quote:The Spirit of God descended upon me,” he said. “O, the joy and happiness I felt, [for] I then received a perfect knowledge that God lives, that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, and of the restoration of the holy Priesthood, and the fulness of the Gospel.”
https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2...s?lang=eng
The same personal revelation that most all religious people of all faiths claim to experience.
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RE: The One And Only
July 3, 2013 at 9:55 pm
(July 3, 2013 at 6:23 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: Clearly, each theists believes wholeheartedly that he has the evidence to support the existence of his deity. He claims to know that his god is real.
Out of the thousands of deities, there are millions of people who favor one over another and claim that the others are not real.
If Christians claim to have as much proof and conviction for the existence of their god as Muslims claim to have for the existence of Allah, who is one from either religion to claim that the other is wrong?
If a Christian can reach a logical conclusion that other deities are myth, what prevents them from knowing that their own god is also myth? After all, Muslims use exactly the same logic to dismiss the Christian god as Christians use to dismiss Allah.
What would it take for a Christian who realizes that countless other gods are not real to also come to the logical conclusion that the likelihood of the Christian god being real is just as unlikely?
The Christian God promises to reunite His created ones to Himself in a perfect eternal life.
If allah is the same as Yahweh, why did he wait till around 600 AD to begin the Muslim religion. Yahweh started at the beginning.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: The One And Only
July 3, 2013 at 9:59 pm
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(July 3, 2013 at 9:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: Yahweh started at the beginning.
According to fallible men who wrote a fiction book. Other than that, you have absolutely no proof that biblical accounts are accurate.
I reiterate: Religion-X uses exactly the same logic to dismiss the god of Religion-Y as Religion-Y uses to dismiss the god of Religion-X.
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RE: The One And Only
July 3, 2013 at 10:09 pm
Whuttt?
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RE: The One And Only
July 4, 2013 at 1:11 am
(July 3, 2013 at 9:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: If allah is the same as Yahweh, why did he wait till around 600 AD to begin the Muslim religion. Yahweh started at the beginning.
What "beginning"? You mean why did a different religion jumpstart itself after another competing religion already had some calendar in motion?
You do realize that the "gregorian calendar" is not the first calendar right?
So because the members of another religion didn't align their calendar with your religious calendar then it's somehow post-dated?
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This makes total sense. So obvious.
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RE: The One And Only
July 4, 2013 at 8:03 am
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
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RE: The One And Only
July 4, 2013 at 8:11 am
(July 3, 2013 at 9:55 pm)Godschild Wrote: (July 3, 2013 at 6:23 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: Clearly, each theists believes wholeheartedly that he has the evidence to support the existence of his deity. He claims to know that his god is real.
Out of the thousands of deities, there are millions of people who favor one over another and claim that the others are not real.
If Christians claim to have as much proof and conviction for the existence of their god as Muslims claim to have for the existence of Allah, who is one from either religion to claim that the other is wrong?
If a Christian can reach a logical conclusion that other deities are myth, what prevents them from knowing that their own god is also myth? After all, Muslims use exactly the same logic to dismiss the Christian god as Christians use to dismiss Allah.
What would it take for a Christian who realizes that countless other gods are not real to also come to the logical conclusion that the likelihood of the Christian god being real is just as unlikely?
The Christian God promises to reunite His created ones to Himself in a perfect eternal life.
If allah is the same as Yahweh, why did he wait till around 600 AD to begin the Muslim religion. Yahweh started at the beginning.
The ancestor of Christianity (Judaism) began in the seventh century BC. The earth is around 480 billions of years and the universe is billions of years.
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RE: The One And Only
July 4, 2013 at 8:21 am
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(July 4, 2013 at 8:11 am)viocjit Wrote: The earth is around 480 billions of years and the universe is billions of years. Please tell me there is a typo!
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RE: The One And Only
July 4, 2013 at 8:31 am
(July 4, 2013 at 8:21 am)pocaracas Wrote: (July 4, 2013 at 8:11 am)viocjit Wrote: The earth is around 480 billions of years and the universe is billions of years. Please tell me there is a typo!
Yes like for the year of the earth I gave an approximation. Generally we say around 4.50 billions of years but I would like wrote 4.80 billions of year because some people claim that the earth is minimum 5 billions of year.
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