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Blind faith and evolution
#61
RE: Blind faith and evolution
(July 19, 2013 at 11:20 am)enrico Wrote:
Chas Wrote:You do not appear to have a clear understanding of biology.

Bacteria and viruses mutate and some mutations confer resistance to drugs. Those survive.
MRSA didn't "lie dormant" - it evolved.


Gee, how did you work that out?
I will have to tell that idiot that told me that inside our body we have all kind of germs ready to express themselves as the body weaken that he was wrong.
He also told me that mutation is a tricky concept.
It works like the water in a river.
When there is too much water the river flood in a certain place creating a problem (in our case when the cause of the disease can not be contained then it will be expressed in the form of a particular diseases and when the cause is not contained in a different place it will cause a different disease).
So mutation is not that the bacteria and viruses mutate but that the cause of the disease find a different way to express itself as the reasons are different.
Anyway good luck with your study in biology.Smile

Your misunderstanding of biology is epic. What kind of new age bullshit is that?
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#62
RE: Blind faith and evolution
the truth is that as a society we do not yet have the answer.
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#63
RE: Blind faith and evolution
(July 17, 2013 at 10:24 am)enrico Wrote: Two distant things and yet some people with blind faith say that they believe in evolution.
Is that possible? Does it make any sense?
Usually blind faith is associated with religion but not always.
Here i am talking about some atheist.
Many atheist believe that by a strange and mysterious combination one born as a human out of nothing due to him-her and other born as plants, worms, insects or animals also out of nothing.
In this way there is no evolution of consciousness.
A worm with his primitive consciousness came in existence just for pure bad luck on the other hand a human being came in existence with his-her more developed consciousness just by good luck.
So where is the evolution of conscience that suppose to be build up as the life progress from lower to higher form of lives?
Is perhaps that we born as humans because humanity has developed for long time and we follow this wave of development?
So if this is true then we are not responsible for our development as the wave of collective progress moves us along anyway.
What a wishful thinking to believe that our consciousness is build up in just a lifetime thanks also to the progress that humans have done since human existence.
Sorry but the very science related to evolution that many believe in contradict this blind faith therefore anyone believing in blind chances has really nothing to do with evolution.Angel

You really need to read a book on evolution. I suggest Why Evolution is True by Jerry Coyne, PhD.
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Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#64
RE: Blind faith and evolution
Chas Wrote:You really need to read a book on evolution. I suggest Why Evolution is True by Jerry Coyne, PhD.

you don't know that it's true, just like creationists don't know that creation is true, do you see the hypocrisy?
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#65
RE: Blind faith and evolution
(July 19, 2013 at 4:36 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote:
Chas Wrote:You really need to read a book on evolution. I suggest Why Evolution is True by Jerry Coyne, PhD.

you don't know that it's true, just like creationists don't know that creation is true, do you see the hypocrisy?

We do, in fact, know that is true given the preponderance of evidence.

It is a scientific theory that is repeatedly tested and succeeds.
Skepticism is not a position; it is an approach to claims.
Science is not a subject, but a method.
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#66
RE: Blind faith and evolution
(July 19, 2013 at 4:36 pm)christcahinkilla Wrote: you don't know that it's true, just like creationists don't know that creation is true, do you see the hypocrisy?

Do you see the evidence? That makes all the difference in the world.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#67
RE: Blind faith and evolution
Chas Wrote:We do, in fact, know that is true given the preponderance of evidence.

It is a scientific theory that is repeatedly tested and succeeds.

lol the 'big bang' theory has been tested and proven? damn i missed it..
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#68
RE: Blind faith and evolution
As a matter of fact: yes. Though what it's got to do with evolution completely escapes me.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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#69
RE: Blind faith and evolution
you want to know a theory that is tried and tested and every time it turns up true on the subject: W-e d-o-n't k-n-ow y-e-t. Sometimes that the first step towards a greater discovery...
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#70
RE: Blind faith and evolution
Try studying the subject. You'll find that we know a hell of a lot more than you think.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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