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Why I Am Pro-Life
RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 29, 2013 at 3:18 pm)Rahul Wrote: By unborn you mean it's going to be born. That's a sure thing. We're not talking about a sure thing. We're talking about a possibility.

Riddle me this....

You have no idea if you'll die in the next second.
Therefore me killing you isn't killing a life, only a potential life.
So killing you isn't killing a human?
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 29, 2013 at 3:07 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The severed finger was part of a living animal. If it's severed, and assuming that human fingers can't survive without the body which supports it, cannot be classed as a life in its own right. It will be alive as long as it's support remains. Not for very long after its support is removed.

You remove a four week old fetus from the mother's womb and it's not going to stay alive very long. It will be alive as long as it's support remains.

(July 29, 2013 at 3:22 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You have no idea if you'll die in the next second.
Therefore me killing you isn't killing a life, only a potential life.
So killing you isn't killing a human?

I'm not a human. I'm a kumquat.

I exist. A person. Killing a person that currently exists is murder. Removing the possibility of someone that might exist in the future isn't murder. It's just a choice.
Everything I needed to know about life I learned on Dagobah.
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 29, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Rahul Wrote: You remove a four week old fetus from the mother's womb and it's not going to stay alive very long. It will be alive as long as it's support remains.

You killed the fetus. You didn't kill the finger, it was never a human to kill. It's host body can carry on living without it.
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
When a foetus is removed, its host body can carry on living without it, too. Usually much better off, too.
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 29, 2013 at 3:29 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: You killed the fetus. You didn't kill the finger, it was never a human to kill. It's host body can carry on living without it.

I didn't kill anything. I just removed a possibility.*

*No humans were harmed in the making of this post.
Everything I needed to know about life I learned on Dagobah.
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 29, 2013 at 3:23 pm)Rahul Wrote: I'm not a human. I'm a kumquat.

I exist. A person. Killing a person that currently exists is murder. Removing the possibility of someone that might exist in the future isn't murder. It's just a choice.

I thought something smelled funny! Big Grin

Who's talking about a person? I'm talking about a human. Both you and the zygote are classified as human.

Who's talking about the law? The question is asking if you think one is killing as human and one is not.

Please try again.
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
Every sperm and egg combo is a potential human. Let's ban condoms and birth control. Otherwise, we're murdering the unconceived.

The unconceived are people too!
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"The lord doesn't work in mysterious ways, but in ways that are indistinguishable from his nonexistence."
-- George Yorgo Veenhuyzen quoted by John W. Loftus in The End of Christianity (p. 103).
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
Rahul Wrote:Yes it is. Living human cells. Not a person. Piece of flesh.

Quote:flesh
/fleSH/
Noun
The soft substance consisting of muscle and fat that is found between the skin and bones of an animal or a human.

Quote:em·bry·o
/ˈembrēˌō/
Noun
An unborn or unhatched offspring in the process of development.
An unborn human baby, esp. in the first eight weeks from conception, after implantation but before all the organs are developed.

Quote:By unborn you mean it's going to be born. That's a sure thing. We're not talking about a sure thing. We're talking about a possibility.

By unborn I mean it is not yet born. Whether or not the baby is born is not a sure thing. Never argued that. Stop putting words into my mouth. And I and other posters have already covered natural miscarriages.

Quote:It's not an entity until the higher brain develops. The Cerebrum. Until then it's not an entity. It's not a person. It's just a potential one.

Quote:en·ti·ty
/ˈentitē/
Noun
A thing with distinct and independent existence.
Existence; being: "entity and nonentity".

I don't see a mention of brain in there.

Quote:It's only been made clear that it's false by flawed thinking. Which is to say, it's not false.

You have not proven that my conclusions are false, you merely argue that they are without the application of facts. Prove that my argumentation is flawed. I have provided links to sources that back up my claims, where are yours?

' Wrote:Define human life. Define it.

Quote:hu·man
/ˈ(h)yo͞omən/
Adjective
Of, relating to, or characteristic of people or human beings.
Noun
A human being, esp. a person as distinguished from an animal or (in science fiction) an alien.

Quote:a·live
/əˈlīv/
Adjective
(of a person, animal, or plant) Living, not dead.

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Quote:If you won't logically ruminate on your thinking I guess I don't know what more I can say either.

Funny you say that, given the fact that I already posted about having arrived at this conclusion after fucking thinking about it, and that I used to be pro-choice, not pro-life.

Quote:I don't care what some doctor thinks. Most doctors would believe otherwise. I don't care if some doctors are dense.

"My doctors are smart your doctor dumb!"

Also refer to argument ad populum.

Quote:The entire article is a plea to emotion.

Sure, doctors who perform abortions giving their opinion on abortion is a plea to emotion. Or maybe they are just stating their opinion. Both of which (plea to emotion and opinion sharing) you have done on this thread, yet I am supposed to take what you say seriously.

Quote:"Studies have found that 30 to 50 percent of fertilized eggs are lost before or during the process of implantation – often so early that a woman goes on to get her period at about the expected time."

http://www.babycenter.com/0_understandin...age_252.bc

Yes, miscarriages are an unfortunate part of life.

One of my first replies on here I stated that I cannot liken the natural (and unfortunate) process of miscarriage with artificial abortion.

Quote:Ever considered the slight possibility that you might be wrong? It would explain a lot to you.

Nah, I never second guess my opinion, I never question my convictions, I just herp de dur and believe anything I am told by anybody ever.
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 29, 2013 at 3:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Who's talking about a person? I'm talking about a human. Both you and the zygote are classified as human.

My severed finger is classified as human.

When I use the term person or human what I mean by that is a consciousness. Human consciousness.

(July 29, 2013 at 3:36 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: Who's talking about the law? The question is asking if you think one is killing as human and one is not.

Please try again.

There's no human to kill with abortion. No human there. Just an undeveloped piece of human flesh.
Everything I needed to know about life I learned on Dagobah.
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RE: Why I Am Pro-Life
(July 29, 2013 at 3:36 pm)teaearlgreyhot Wrote: Every sperm and egg combo is a potential human. Let's ban condoms and birth control. Otherwise, we're murdering the unconceived.

The unconceived are people too!

ROFLOL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUspLVStPbk

lol you guys are so funny and true and I totally believe that masturbation and periods are a form of abortion lulz
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