Are Ray and Kirk Perfect?

[Psykhronic]

Considering all of the nothing you have offered for a refutation I won't take your words to heart.

[Bad Writer]

Wow, you really can't handle your own idiocy being torn down huh? Sounds a lot like a child's reaction.

Kiddo nothing was torn down unless you consider childish logic credible, if you do then it shows how little your opinion is.

You still haven't proven to anyone on this post how if we're created in god's image (and mind you, he's supposed to be perfect) why we are all so flawed.

[Minimalist]

You should really be careful about posting things you know nothing about and posting things from people you think know what they are talking about.

Why, G-C? You are a pro at it.

[Godscreated]

Considering all of the nothing you have offered for a refutation I won't take your words to heart.

Good, I was not looking for your approval.

[Bad Wolf]

Its funny GC, how you haven't yet explained how his logic is childish. Is that maybe because you can't explain how?

[Michael Schubert]

Then the book continues with another example, this one concerning the human wind pipe and eating:

Human beings also have a dangerous tendency to choke on food: this has something to do with the fact that, in the back of our throats, the passage that air follows to get to the lungs actually crosses the path that food follows to get to the stomach. This would be an example of a really stupid (or perversely sadistic) design if a god had actually designed it that way.

The book goes on to say the reason our windpipes and throats are set up the way they are is because our distant ancestors were sea creatures who eventually reproduced and grew to live on land. This feature, like everything in human anatomy, comes from the evolution of our bodies.

You should really be careful about posting things you know nothing about and posting things from people you think know what they are talking about.

First of all less than 3000 people die every year from chocking in the U.S. every year that includes children. Children are more likely to choke on things that were not around a couple hundred years ago, balloons, small toy parts, gel and gummy candies are some of the major contributors of child deaths. The percentage of people chocking to death each year is 0.00001. Over 400,000 people die every year in the U.S. from smoking related illness. Now speaking of smoking, wouldn't one look stupid with a cigarette hanging out of a nostril, one couldn't leave it there long the smoke would burn one's eyes and only people with big noses could smoke cigars.
Now to some important things, one could not cough to clear the lungs the sinuses would not allow this, they would become stopped up and flood the air passage and one would suffocate. One could nor have mouth to mouth to help some one breath or aid in clearing water from the lungs.
You would not be able to taste much at all, most taste comes from that passage way from the throat to the sinuses, one could die of eating bad and spoiled foods. If you think I'm lying get two glasses fill one with water and the other with orange juice, close your eyes and have a friend hand you a glass pinch off your nose and drink, then drink the other glass the same way, no breath in between, then guess which was the orange juice before you breath. Without the passage between the throat and air passage one could not use a benny pot to clean the sinuses. I'm sure that's not the correct spelling.
You could not talk, nor yawn, no whistling either. Next time research or even think for a moment might help.

What does all of that have to do with the issue at hand? The reason fewer people choke to death is because everyone knows that their throat is connected to the windpipe they breath out of, so they are careful to chew their food so they don't choke. Whether or not that statistic you cited is true (you don't claim a source), it is adventitious to the evolution of our bodies.

You're talking crazy!

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I don't even know where to start on this. All I can say is i don't think you understand what he was getting at. He wasn't saying we would be better without a windpipe or whatever. He was saying it is not intelligently designed because we choke a lot. If we were intelligently designed, we would use different holes for breathing and eating, this would prevent people choking. I suggest next time you type something, YOU should think for a moment, that might help.

The thought process was just fine, it's your's like his that's flawed, without that little nasal passage the negatives I pointed out would be true, why, because there would be two different passages and we could not survive. Oh yeah, if you keep your mouth closed you do breath and eat with two different holes.
I know why you do not know where to start, because you have no argument against what was said.

You don't even understand what I originally said.

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@ Exlax, you are the most unreasonable, irresponsible person I've ever seen. Your reasoning is so childish it's not worth responding to. When and if you grow up I might consider responding again, until then... bye.

This is the Argument Ad Hominem Fallacy at its finest.

[Godscreated]

When someone starts talking about breathing out of their elbow, I no longer can take anything they say as intelligent, their only purpose is to deflect the truth from what another has said because they have no real argument against what was stated.

The reason any of you have made your crazy statements is this, everything I've said about the design of throat and windpipe are true making it a good design and you can find no way to prove different. You four are childish trouble makers that care nothing for an intelligent conversation, all you care about is ridiculing Christians because of your disdain for what we live our lives for. And you call you're selves tolerant, that's the biggest joke of the day, no week... nope year.

[Bad Writer]

When you start choking on that overstuffed steak burrito from Taco Bell you're going to wish that you could breathe out your ears.

[pineapplebunnybounce]

When someone starts talking about breathing out of their elbow, I no longer can take anything they say as intelligent, their only purpose is to deflect the truth from what another has said because they have no real argument against what was stated.

The reason any of you have made your crazy statements is this, everything I've said about the design of throat and windpipe are true making it a good design and you can find no way to prove different. You four are childish trouble makers that care nothing for an intelligent conversation, all you care about is ridiculing Christians because of your disdain for what we live our lives for. And you call you're selves tolerant, that's the biggest joke of the day, no week... nope year.

I don't see what the problem is. God can't create someone who breathes out of their elbow? I thought it was omnipotent.

A good design, by whose standards? The human body is riddled with problems. 1-3 % of all babies ever born will have deformities requiring medical interventions. We're not even counting handicaps that show up later in life. We're not even counting miscarriages and ectopic pregnancies yet. The system is highly flawed. You seem to think that we can't do any better than god did? yea, but why are you limiting god's abilities to our level? we're humans.

[Michael Schubert]

When someone starts talking about breathing out of their elbow, I no longer can take anything they say as intelligent, their only purpose is to deflect the truth from what another has said because they have no real argument against what was stated.

The reason any of you have made your crazy statements is this, everything I've said about the design of throat and windpipe are true making it a good design and you can find no way to prove different. You four are childish trouble makers that care nothing for an intelligent conversation, all you care about is ridiculing Christians because of your disdain for what we live our lives for. And you call you're selves tolerant, that's the biggest joke of the day, no week... nope year.

Yep, there it is again: The Argument Ad Hominem Fallacy.

And badwritersparty is correct, the throat and windpipe are pretty inconvenient features.