It should not be surprising that atheists are more prone to depression and its accessory effects when we are persecuted minorities throughout much of the world, to some greater or lesser extent.
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Atheists are mentally ill
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(August 22, 2013 at 5:19 pm)Faith No More Wrote: And it is a misconception that atheists have to invest their happiness in anything, which seems to stem from the theist view of materialism. It is very possible for an atheist to find internal happiness that isn't completely dependent upon worldly things. You could still build up a kind of narcissism or inflated view of yourself as self sufficient without the need of others. Even something like Buddhism is really focused toward a higher power it just happens to be found within by emptying yourself of your self which is illusionary. Epicureanism was an attempt in ancient Greece to find a state of inner bliss within a purely naturalistic framework without a belief in any higher power, though even then some of them went mad and/or committed suicide. So as the original article suggested the human brain was probably not wired up for atheism. Or at any rate you make life more difficult for yourself than it needs to be. You just need a bit of faith in there, in Christ ideally not that the mainstream alternatives are terrible. Quote:You could still build up a kind of narcissism or inflated view of yourself as self sufficient without the need of others. A trait no less common in Christians than anyone else. What do I need scientists and doctors for, I have god! (August 22, 2013 at 5:51 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: You could still build up a kind of narcissism or inflated view of yourself as self sufficient without the need of others. As opposed to the narcissism or inflated view that one's religious beliefs are ideal for everyone? (August 22, 2013 at 5:51 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Even something like Buddhism is really focused toward a higher power it just happens to be found within by emptying yourself of your self which is illusionary. Perhaps all appeals to a higher power are illusionary? (August 22, 2013 at 5:51 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Epicureanism was an attempt in ancient Greece to find a state of inner bliss within a purely naturalistic framework without a belief in any higher power, though even then some of them went mad and/or committed suicide. Right, because Christians never go mad or commit suicide. (August 22, 2013 at 5:51 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: So as the original article suggested the human brain was probably not wired up for atheism. It suggested so vapidly, and I could equally suggest that atheists have simply evolved beyond the need for religion. They both, however, remain simply suggestions. The difference is that one is an attempt to degrade and insult an entire group of people. When that is done so in such an unjustified manner, we call that prejudice. (August 22, 2013 at 5:51 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: Or at any rate you make life more difficult for yourself than it needs to be. You just need a bit of faith in there, in Christ ideally not that the mainstream alternatives are terrible. What was that you said about narcissism and an inflated view of yourself?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
(August 22, 2013 at 5:51 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: So as the original article suggested the human brain was probably not wired up for atheism.The human brain... and body.... was not wired to live more than an average of 40 years. And yet... here we are, reaching well into our 70's, on average. Some things are sure to go haywire... But yes, on a fundamental level, you're right... there seems to be some part of the brain dedicated to the religious experience. http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...t-of-brain http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2009/0...l.pdf+html Does it mean that god created humans with such a capacity? Or does it mean that humans developed such a capacity to keep them from attempting to figure out some difficult answers by themselves? Or as a mechanism to prevent depression and similar mental disturbances? Who knows?... Nowadays, some atheists (and I'm speaking for myself) can cope with the lack of mystical meaning for their life. They see the world as it is and understand it. They find meaning in other things, like their children and grandchildren; culture; entertainment; online forums; etc... But some atheists still possess the original mental problem requiring some ultimate meaning for their lives.... when you have no belief, such meaning is intangible and that situation can lead to depression. The world is not Black & white.... it has shades of gray. (August 22, 2013 at 5:51 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: So as the original article suggested the human brain was probably not wired up for atheism. Point the phrase out which suggests that. Because the article itself is nothing but a very short and unprofessionaly stiched together amount of not conected data from a biased source, followed by a selfserving even more unprofessional rant of mental masturbation. (August 22, 2013 at 5:51 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: at any rate you make life more difficult for yourself than it needs to be. You just need a bit of faith in there, in Christ ideally not that the mainstream alternatives are terrible. Those be fighting words right there. There is no alternative to thinking logically and reasonably, and I will be damned if I will place myself into the atheistic closet for the benefit of retarded theists who think they have the special right to dictate the lives of others.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter (August 22, 2013 at 6:25 pm)pocaracas Wrote: Nowadays, some atheists (and I'm speaking for myself) can cope with the lack of mystical meaning for their life. They see the world as it is and understand it. They find meaning in other things, like their children and grandchildren; culture; entertainment; online forums; etc... But to you all of that is just a byproduct of some kind blind unintentional natural whatever it was that made the universe and it's all going to be dust eventually anyway. There's no real permanence or real relevance to it. You may think there is but what you think doesn't ultimately matter as you're going to end up the same way yourself. In God everything has a permanence, everything has a purpose beyond your own opinion and you are partaking within it, everything you do in some way ultimately does matter in a real way. What would be central wouldn't be a blind chaos that somehow churned out a fully functioning life generating universe but at the heart you have love and that would be ultimate basis of human existence right there. It isn't nature red in tooth and claw or survival of the fittest, it isn't about shoring up treasure on Earth. (August 22, 2013 at 6:25 pm)pocaracas Wrote: The world is not Black & white.... it has shades of gray. Sin and Saintliness run on a spectrum though everyone (who isn't Jesus/part of the Trinity of God) is at least little bit grey. Not that it matters because we're saved through grace which washes all of that out of your system. (August 22, 2013 at 6:51 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: ] Since real self worth comes from accomplishing difficult things, we can see why christians so cravenly seek validation from the obsurd. (August 22, 2013 at 7:01 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: But to you all of that is just a byproduct of some kind blind unintentional natural whatever it was that made the universe and it's all going to be dust eventually anyway. So? (August 22, 2013 at 7:01 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: There's no real permanence or real relevance to it. So? Appeal to consequence isn't exactly compelling. (August 22, 2013 at 7:01 pm)Sword of Christ Wrote: In God everything has a permanence, everything has a purpose beyond your own opinion and you are partaking within it, everything you do in some way ultimately does matter in a real way. That's your claim, one that has not been demonstrated to be true. All of what you say is contingent on the existence of an entity that you (or anyone else) cannot demonstrate to even exist. Why should anyone take your assertion seriously? Because of a fallacious appeal to consequence? No thank you. |
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