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Hell
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Got proof?
Mark Taylor: "Religious conflict will be less a matter of struggles between belief and unbelief than of clashes between believers who make room for doubt and those who do not."
Einstein: “The most unintelligible thing about nature is that it is intelligible” 
Got evidence of any god at all?
EvF 
The proof is in the fact that you "think" he is there and defend him without any proof of his existence beside your own convictions.
There is nothing people will not maintain when they are slaves to superstition
http://chatpilot-godisamyth.blogspot.com/  
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (October 30, 2009 at 4:59 pm)solarwave Wrote: Got proof? (October 30, 2009 at 5:15 pm)EvidenceVsFaith Wrote: Got evidence of any god at all? (October 30, 2009 at 8:28 pm)chatpilot Wrote: The proof is in the fact that you "think" he is there and defend him without any proof of his existence beside your own convictions. 
I have reasons why I believe in God, but I have pretty much given up trying to explain them here since it seems many people here ether don't want to believe or ask for irrationally high levels of proof and then restrict that proof only to repeatable scientific evidence. That may work for cold hard laws, but not for a personal immateral God.
Mark Taylor: "Religious conflict will be less a matter of struggles between belief and unbelief than of clashes between believers who make room for doubt and those who do not."
Einstein: “The most unintelligible thing about nature is that it is intelligible”  Quote:then restrict that proof only to repeatable scientific evidence. And thus, to close the circle for the umpteenth time, is why we reject your silly visions of a 'god.' Do you get it now?
H0ary H0bbit Religious Views: “Never to suffer would never to have been blessed.” - Edgar Allan Poe (October 31, 2009 at 10:47 am)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:then restrict that proof only to repeatable scientific evidence. We see the absurdity of your logic Min yes, absolutely. Are you saying that you're a lost cause? (October 31, 2009 at 10:47 am)Minimalist Wrote:Quote:then restrict that proof only to repeatable scientific evidence. I do understand now, and that is why I say it is irrational to close your mind so much to other ways of knowing things.
Mark Taylor: "Religious conflict will be less a matter of struggles between belief and unbelief than of clashes between believers who make room for doubt and those who do not."
Einstein: “The most unintelligible thing about nature is that it is intelligible”
By the way, when Minimalist says "we" he of course cannot actually be speaking for all 'us atheists'.
I for one disagree with him for instance. I'd accept any valid evidence. And I do not see how scientific evidence suffices anyway because it seems to me that deities are unfalsfiable, and unless something can be falsified it cannot be science. EvF RE: Hell
October 31, 2009 at 6:56 pm
(This post was last modified: October 31, 2009 at 6:59 pm by Minimalist.)
Quote:Are you saying that you're a lost cause? I'm saying you believe in fucking fairy tales. Quote:I'd accept any valid evidence. There cannot be valid proof of an invalid assertion. Feel free to join the fairy tale chorus if you like. |
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