Hell

[Retorth]

I'm curious about this so I just thought I'd pose a question to our fellow christian AH members so I can have a better understanding.


Hell is a place sinners are sent to and can never return from correct? Hell is designed for eternal banishment and suffering, correct?

If your god created this place called hell, did he not believe in the rehabilitation of murderers, convicts and other types of sinners? Or were these people, to him, just a waste of time and only deserved to be destroyed?


In advance, I just want to say that I appreciate your insights, thanks.

[Godless]

My wife believes that there are different plains or regions in the afterlife.
There is no hell as such.
Sinners go to a lower plain and can then ascend to higher plains
as they become educated and cleansed of their sins etc.

All sounds daft to me but that's her belief and who am I to
argue with the wife?

Of course, we Atheists, being such good souls, will ascend
up to the highest plain immediately.
Albert.

[Retorth]

The taoists believe there are seven stages to hell, go figure.

[Ace Otana]

Excellant, Retorth.

If it be alright with you I'd like to pose questions for our theist friends too.
Hell is a place of horrific immoral torture. It isn't a place of punishment because every punishment has an end to it. Hell is ment for torture only.

Now the question I pose is, who on this planet do you think is worthy to bare such horrific pain? Even Hitler wouldn't deserve that much. A few centuries maybe but not for eternity. Also do you think it's justified for people to be horrifically tortured for simply not believing in what you believe? Isn't torturing them a tad hasty? People who don't believe are quite often very moral and so do you think it's ok to torture them? It's like living a happy moral life and being hanged because you didn't worship the lord of the land. It's wrong and very immoral. So really if god allows this, he can't be all loving. "Everyone is forgiven"? Don't seem like it. I don't know, I guess the word "torture" and "eternity" kinda puts god and his all loving ways way out of sight doesn't it.

[Craveman]

I read this in another post where "Samson" quoted: "This part of your write up, stuck out the most, "GOING TO HELL"...

Keep in mind on something, Hell was nothing more than a mistranslated word from the Torah to the Christian Bible. (Grave to Hell) You can thank the church for changing that little tidbit. Funny thing, is that it wasn't until a "Jesus" that Hell was even part of the whole big play which came out of the N.T.. 

So it's a fictional place from a fictional book, written by man (many authors not known) and re-translated many a time. But then again if this place is real I guess I'll see you all there!

[theblindferrengi]

To me, hell (if it existed) would not be a place, but a state of being, where you were on a nearly identical version of earty, except there were no consequenses for any of your actions. This sounds nice at first glance, but it would be horible; if you did something beneficial to society, you would get no credit, no recognition, and others would plagurize it and kick you away. If you so domething detrimental, like a crime, nothing happens to you. You would turn into a criminal, and watch yourself doing so. It would be fun at first to be able to rob a bank and have nobody come after you, but it would soon grow old, as your life would be meaningless and worthless.

It is not only one of the goals of a human, but one of the emotional necesitys, that our lifes have some kind of meaning to us, we all like to think we make some small difference; that is the point of not having consequenses, you would never be able to make a diference, you could do the actual work, but all of any credit would go to the nearest avalible person who would claim it. Even hardened criminals have this wanting to make some kind of difference on the earth, although not quite of the same nature as the rest of us, they want to be recognised for their crimes eventually, and that is why we catch them so easily. Even they who would never be recognized for their crimes would get infinitely frustrated with that situaton.

"It's like living a happy moral life and being hanged because you didn't worship the lord of the land"

Its like being hanged and not dying, just kicking and gurgling, and being left up on the gallows for eternity.

[chatpilot]

The invention of hell just tells me (if it were a literal place) that God sure can hold a grudge. The biblical God in my view was, is, and always will be a tyrant. When I read the bible I don't see a loving God anywhere. All his love and good graces are contingent on you accepting by faith that he exists and then be willing to alter your life to live by his statutes. All atheists are damned to hell simply because we are too inquisitive.

[Rhizomorph13]

Ace,

You got it WRONG! Hitler is having pineapples shoved up his ass daily while wearing a tutu.

Rhizo

[chatpilot]

Little Nicky! I loved that movie lol.

[Ace Otana]

Ace,

You got it WRONG! Hitler is having pineapples shoved up his ass daily while wearing a tutu.

Rhizo

Rhizo,

You got it WRONG! You are thinking too small. Hitler is having water melons shoved up his arse daily whilst wearing both a thong and a tutu. Those things can often restrict the balls and boy does that feel uncomfortable. Not that I'd know about it.