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RE: HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'
August 18, 2013 at 3:30 am
(August 18, 2013 at 12:19 am)Drich Wrote: Did it work for any of them, or did you just assume it didn't?
Sorry, but "doing nothing" is not a legitimate cure for anything.
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RE: HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'
August 18, 2013 at 6:33 am
Apart from a cure for aquiring some important experience, I think. It is a cure for those individuals who deem epistemically objective evidence a disease and faith a cure to that disease (although they may indeed phrase it differently) which, unfortunately, many aforementioned individuals seem to believe.
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RE: HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'
August 18, 2013 at 6:42 am
(August 18, 2013 at 12:19 am)Drich Wrote: (August 17, 2013 at 4:50 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: This happening in England!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23729684
Only anecdotal so would need validation.
Did it work for any of them, or did you just assume it didn't? Of course it didn't, you farty little smeghead.
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RE: HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'
August 18, 2013 at 6:46 am
This should all offend me, it is 2013 for fuck's sake!
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RE: HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'
August 18, 2013 at 9:58 am
(August 18, 2013 at 12:19 am)Drich Wrote: Did it work for any of them, or did you just assume it didn't?
Don't be silly.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'
August 18, 2013 at 10:02 am
(August 18, 2013 at 3:30 am)Esquilax Wrote: Sorry, but "doing nothing" is not a legitimate cure for anything.
Drich was just setting you up, because now what's coming is his claim that god cured him of HIV.
Had you not heard that gem yet?
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
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RE: HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'
August 18, 2013 at 11:06 am
(August 18, 2013 at 10:02 am)Faith No More Wrote: (August 18, 2013 at 3:30 am)Esquilax Wrote: Sorry, but "doing nothing" is not a legitimate cure for anything.
Drich was just setting you up, because now what's coming is his claim that god cured him of HIV.
Had you not heard that gem yet?
Drich is always setting you smeckles up. 
http://atheistforums.org/thread-11671.html
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Even so if I had been offered and could afford the antivirials I would have taken them till I no longer needed them. One way or the other.
The point? God can do things like take away disease, either through conventional means or sponteanously. That is why I asked what happened to the people who stopped taking their meds. Rather than just assume that they got worse. Because if they got better we would probably never know. They would had been labeled a 'faker' of some kind even if they had a flagship symptom of AIDS and a positive HIV test.
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RE: HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'
August 18, 2013 at 11:14 am
(August 18, 2013 at 10:02 am)Faith No More Wrote: (August 18, 2013 at 3:30 am)Esquilax Wrote: Sorry, but "doing nothing" is not a legitimate cure for anything.
Drich was just setting you up, because now what's coming is his claim that god cured him of HIV.
Had you not heard that gem yet?
There is not a facepalm image on the entire internet that is adequate for knowing this claim was seriously made by a thinking human mind. 
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RE: HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'
August 18, 2013 at 11:17 am
I just love it when people become so insecure in their beliefs that they start making up insane crap in a weird attempt to convince both themselves and others of said beliefs... without even consciously noticing their own insecurity.
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RE: HIV patients told by Pentecostal pastors 'to rely on God'
August 18, 2013 at 11:23 am
(This post was last modified: August 18, 2013 at 11:26 am by Drich.)
(August 18, 2013 at 11:14 am)Esquilax Wrote: (August 18, 2013 at 10:02 am)Faith No More Wrote: Drich was just setting you up, because now what's coming is his claim that god cured him of HIV.
Had you not heard that gem yet?
There is not a facepalm image on the entire internet that is adequate for knowing this claim was seriously made by a thinking human mind. Don't be 'obtuse.' Do a little research before you spout off at something your completely ignorant at.
http://hivskeptic.wordpress.com/2008/01/...taneously/
There are several documented cases (mine was not one of them, even though my doctor at the time tried.) But now it is well documented that people do get Healed, but as I said their either labeled a faker or their strain of the HIV virus was somehow compromised and the body fought it off on their own somehow. God is seldom if ever apart of the equasion in the official documentation. Even if the patient is convinced.
(August 18, 2013 at 11:17 am)NoraBrimstone Wrote: I just love it when people become so insecure in their beliefs that they start making up insane crap in a weird attempt to convince both themselves and others of said beliefs... without even consciously noticing their own insecurity.
 Oh, the Irony.
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