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Poll: Should abortion be...
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Abortion Viewed in Moral Terms
#61
RE: Abortion Viewed in Moral Terms
(August 21, 2013 at 12:15 pm)Slave Wrote: Back then, women had a legitimate reason to desire the legality of abortion.

I'm sorry... what gives you the right to decide what reasons are "legitimate'?
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#62
RE: Abortion Viewed in Moral Terms
I have never understood why the reasons behind an abortion is relevant to the discussion. If you allow it for one reason, what's your justification for not allowing it for another? Why is one woman deserving of this choice but another, not? It no longer is about the fetus the moment you say you allow abortion in cases of rape/or whatever it is you allow it for. It's about something else. Because you're saying one woman deserves to suffer through pregnancy and 18-20 years of active motherhood. Unless she's raped than she deserves to get an abortion if she wants one.

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#63
RE: Abortion Viewed in Moral Terms
Quote:Why is one woman deserving of this choice but another, not?

The real fanatics make no such exception. Sadly, what they insist upon is that women should be punished for fucking but not men.

Oddly...men make the rules. Coincidence?
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#64
RE: Abortion Viewed in Moral Terms
(August 21, 2013 at 8:01 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
Quote:Why is one woman deserving of this choice but another, not?

The real fanatics make no such exception. Sadly, what they insist upon is that women should be punished for fucking but not men.

Oddly...men make the rules. Coincidence?

Oh believe me, I know plenty of women who are against abortion. And they don't bother to hide the fact that they think the woman should be "responsible" for her "mistake".
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#65
RE: Abortion Viewed in Moral Terms
(August 21, 2013 at 8:06 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Oh believe me, I know plenty of women who are against abortion. And they don't bother to hide the fact that they think the woman should be "responsible" for her "mistake".
That's impossible. Only white christian Republican males are against abortion.
"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it" - Robert A. Heinlein
Would you blame sports car for an accident instead of drunk driver?
Good guy Ronald Reagan

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#66
RE: Abortion Viewed in Moral Terms
(August 21, 2013 at 7:57 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: I have never understood why the reasons behind an abortion is relevant to the discussion. If you allow it for one reason, what's your justification for not allowing it for another? Why is one woman deserving of this choice but another, not? It no longer is about the fetus the moment you say you allow abortion in cases of rape/or whatever it is you allow it for. It's about something else. Because you're saying one woman deserves to suffer through pregnancy and 18-20 years of active motherhood. Unless she's raped than she deserves to get an abortion if she wants one.

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You don't understand it? I do. I understand it perfectly. It's not about the foetus at all. It was never about the foetus. It is, and always has been, about punishment. "You're a dirty slag who managed to get knocked up all by herself and now you must pay for it for the rest of your life!"

The whole "taking responsibility" shit is an even bigger pile of bollocks. If you're too young, too poor, too emotionally unstable, or whatever, to raise a child properly; Keeping the baby is the least responsible thing you could possibly do if you got pregnant. Seriously. Who the fuck thought that one up?

And adoption... What a cunt of a thing that argument is. So yeah, a woman still has to suffer the physical, emotional and psychological effects of pregnancy, childbirth, and the after effects of both... Then she gives the kid over to strangers like it's an unwanted christmas gift she's just flogged on eBay... Then gets to spend the rest of her life remembering that her child is out there somewhere because stupid biology does that to us. Meanwhile, the child has to grow up with the knowledge that their own mother didn't want them, and they were only born because someone forced her to have them, and they will never be loved the way a real biological parent is supposed to love them. What a great situation that is. Let's encourage that shit.
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#67
RE: Abortion Viewed in Moral Terms
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Bravo, Nora.
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#68
RE: Abortion Viewed in Moral Terms
(August 21, 2013 at 8:25 pm)NoraBrimstone Wrote: And adoption... What a cunt of a thing that argument is. So yeah, a woman still has to suffer the physical, emotional and psychological effects of pregnancy, childbirth, and the after effects of both... Then she gives the kid over to strangers like it's an unwanted christmas gift she's just flogged on eBay... Then gets to spend the rest of her life remembering that her child is out there somewhere because stupid biology does that to us. Meanwhile, the child has to grow up with the knowledge that their own mother didn't want them, and they were only born because someone forced her to have them, and they will never be loved the way a real biological parent is supposed to love them. What a great situation that is. Let's encourage that shit.
Funny how abortionists say "who are you to decide what woman does to her body". Well, who are you to know what's going to happen to that kid once he's given to adoption?
"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it" - Robert A. Heinlein
Would you blame sports car for an accident instead of drunk driver?
Good guy Ronald Reagan

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#69
RE: Abortion Viewed in Moral Terms
(August 21, 2013 at 8:07 pm)wwjs Wrote:
(August 21, 2013 at 8:06 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: Oh believe me, I know plenty of women who are against abortion. And they don't bother to hide the fact that they think the woman should be "responsible" for her "mistake".
That's impossible. Only white christian Republican males are against abortion.

Doesn't matter what your other beliefs are if you believe the same thing on the abortion issue, since abortion is what we're talking about here. I'm not from america, so I don't have much contact with republican white males. Anyway. If you want to take the stance that women should go through pregnancy just because she deserves to, I don't respect that stance. That's putting it very mildly.
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#70
RE: Abortion Viewed in Moral Terms
I'm just tired of this feminist bullshit blaming males as if no women were against abortion.
"Censorship is telling a man he can't have a steak just because a baby can't chew it" - Robert A. Heinlein
Would you blame sports car for an accident instead of drunk driver?
Good guy Ronald Reagan

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