Not again! -- Encouragement Please

[Silver]

"He who holds a true belief without knowledge is like a blind man that happens to find the right road." -Plato

Unfortunately, theists can turn that quote around to erroneously assert it to themselves. They can make the statement to the effect of having the knowledge of scripture which reinforces their faith and that anyone who does not possess the same knowledge is the blind man attempting to find the right road.

Ridiculous I know, but theistic thinking is anything except.

[The Reality Salesman01]

I've heard it before. However, they have a completely different definition for what qualifies as knowledge, and the only exception for things that qualify is the particular brand of God in question. They demonstrate at every turn that the only exception they make for the degree of certainty they place on their fatih, is their faith. Meanwhile, they reject claims made about countless other Gods for not standing up to their criteria for what qualifies as knowledge. This is what happens when reality and fantasy are indistinguishable. This begins to draw attention to another concept Plato was facinated with...circularity.

[Drich]

You see Esquilax, Drich is an elitist who undeniably has in his possession the True Interpretation™ of the universe. On that note, I concur that you are merely a sheep who hasn't thought for himself ever since you gained faith in Atheism.

*dry reaches*

What are you talking about? I just said it is possiable to have an objective conclusion different than mine. I simply pointed out that particular 'objective conclusion' did not fit the definition, then I provided the definition.

[Godscreated]

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Hi @Dirich here is one for you.

Listen I know that so many people say that the Holy Spirit and Demons are not the same, One is literally God the other is not that's not up for discussion and I believe they are not the same. Its not possible.

Basically I was sitting thinking 'And I thought that the Holy Spirit takes control of our lives and dwells within us I thought this was possession'.

Then I said to myself aloud 'Is the Holy Spirit like a Demon?' - Because I knew demons possessed people.

Then I went to define what a Demon actually was! Up-to this point I knew it was evil, possessed people and was a spirit.

Then I read on Wikipedia and it said a Demon was an 'Unclean Spirit', I started worrying because up-to this point I didn't know a Demon was an unclean spirit. I thought only Satin was an unclean spirit.

At this point I thought and still believe that by me asking this question to myself that I have committed the sin. I would never say the H/S and Demons are the same only that theology shows that they have one or two things in common.

E.g. the word (Holy Spirit) = Clean Spirit / Demon = Unclean Spirit == Both Spirits
Holy Spirit = Good / Demon = Evil == Both on the same spectrum of Good an Evil.
Holy Spirit = God / Demon Not = God == Both are exact opposites of one another
Holy Spirit = Dwells within us / Demons = Possess us == Very similar in meaning (I Think?)
Holy Spirit = Makes us feel guilty for sinning and need for repentance / Demons = Make us feel happy for sinning and no need for repentance == Both have exact opposite Goals.
Holy Spirit = Shows us we are forgiven / Demons = Make us feel we are not forgiven == Both again exact opposites.

See Understand Its a strange definition - being a computer scientist makes more sense with this.

Take this basic algebra to make my point

int X = (Clean Spirits);
int Y = (Unclean Spirits);

This means that X is not equal to Y and vice versa. However if we say

int X is an Integer = (Clean Spirits)
int Y is an Integer = (Unclean Spirits)

Then what we can say is that X and Y are both Integers even though they are not the same? You follow. This is on the level I was thinking and this is how I meant it.

So ultimately I am worried because I asked that question to myself and that God will see me saying that they are the same as one another than me saying they have some common attributes.

What do you think,

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@ themonkeyman, I know you asked Drich about this, but I have something to say you might not of considered.
God being omniscient, that's all knowing, do you truly believe He wouldn't know exactly what you were thinking, do you think God would make a judgement on a guess?

GC