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RE: Humanity's Punishment: If it was a court case.
August 29, 2013 at 8:36 pm
(August 29, 2013 at 6:53 pm)Creed of Heresy Wrote: You're right, there isn't, because you have no means of doing so.
Pay attention, Catty, I know with your schizophrenic delusional brain it's hard to do but do try to keep up with the adults.
You posited that you cannot sue for a lifetime warranty when the contract is for five years. I countered that I never signed a contract to begin with, either by my hand or by proxy.
And yes, I am very aware I rebutted exhibit B. What, you think just because I'm an atheist I'm going to effectively agree with every point of argument another atheist puts forth? No, if they're wrong or have incorrect information I will correct them, and in thus doing, I stated that the devil is really not the devil. Henceforth I stated that this case overall is against the Christian god, and not the Judaic god, even though both sects claim that god to be the same one...kind of like how Allah is actually God and Yahweh, too.
Now of course there ARE the Dead Sea Scrolls which show that a fairly large Judaic sect talked about a war in heaven, but this view has been rejected by the larger community of Judaic practitioners. Once again, we see that all cults can't get their shit straight, not even the Judaic ones.
The fact that your religions are literally full to bursting with cherry-pickers like yourself who can't agree with one another for shit tells me that none of you have your shit straight. You're all solipsistic idiots, wanting to believe you have it right.
I guess that's what happens when you have no tangible evidence, though; cognitive dissonance.
LOL, so now you need to learn what cognitive dissonance is, WTF?
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RE: Humanity's Punishment: If it was a court case.
August 29, 2013 at 9:03 pm
Actually exhibit c and d can be refuted. 
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RE: Humanity's Punishment: If it was a court case.
August 30, 2013 at 1:49 am
(August 29, 2013 at 8:36 pm)catfish Wrote: LOL, so now you need to learn what cognitive dissonance is, WTF?
*sighs heavily*
Fucking hell you're a fucking worthless intellectual-sparring partner...
Can I please get someone who actually has something tangible in opposition to my points to say? I'm quickly remembering why I put this half-wit on ignore.
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RE: Humanity's Punishment: If it was a court case.
August 30, 2013 at 9:35 am
He's got nothing. We need some apologists up in here. Someone go find some or I'll be forced to use my only Christian forum membership........ they're Catholic and I'd rather let a car tire run over my foot.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Humanity's Punishment: If it was a court case.
August 30, 2013 at 11:17 am
I actually talked to my friend who is a good apologist, he even stated that with current theological beliefs, the premise of this argument stands.
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RE: Humanity's Punishment: If it was a court case.
August 30, 2013 at 6:49 pm
(This post was last modified: August 30, 2013 at 6:49 pm by catfish.)
LOL, perhaps you need your friend to join then. You guys can make claims of victory all you want, it won't change a thing.
"Eternal" is incorrect. Your scenario is equivalent to appealing a life sentence when you were only sentenced to 30 days.
Your "witnesses" and exhibits are incomplete and/or misrepresented.
You're so accustomed to your hubris that you latch on to anything that gives you confirmation bias.
Go over your notes and refile your case so that I may properly rebut your points. As of now, your case is still irrelevant... 
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RE: Humanity's Punishment: If it was a court case.
August 30, 2013 at 7:15 pm
Catfish,
You have yet to address my point that punishment of any form in the current system is uncalled for and malevolant.
IF I was created I sure as fuck would not owe that being squat. If anything he would owe me (yes even taking heaven into that a count), for being so goddamn selfish in the first place.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: Humanity's Punishment: If it was a court case.
August 30, 2013 at 9:26 pm
(August 30, 2013 at 6:49 pm)catfish Wrote: LOL, perhaps you need your friend to join then. You guys can make claims of victory all you want, it won't change a thing.
"Eternal" is incorrect. Your scenario is equivalent to appealing a life sentence when you were only sentenced to 30 days.
Your "witnesses" and exhibits are incomplete and/or misrepresented.
You're so accustomed to your hubris that you latch on to anything that gives you confirmation bias.
Go over your notes and refile your case so that I may properly rebut your points. As of now, your case is still irrelevant...
You still have not addressed the point. Eternal punishment is unjustified according to sin nature being implanted in the psyche of the human mind through proxy. Such judgment is now considering extreme and cruel, it is also not considering the full consideration of situation and personality. Thus my objection in premise still stands. Until you can present an actual counter claim any further action will be consider contempt. According to popular theology and several sources my statements towards Lucifer is based on Catholic doctrines. Also, the source of Lucifer's fall can be assumed from the King of Tyre reference in the bible. Again if you want an intelligent conversation lets. I am reasonable, if you are reasonable.
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RE: Humanity's Punishment: If it was a court case.
August 30, 2013 at 10:14 pm
(August 30, 2013 at 9:26 pm)bladevalant546 Wrote: You still have not addressed the point. Eternal punishment is unjustified according to sin nature being implanted in the psyche of the human mind through proxy. Such judgment is now considering extreme and cruel, it is also not considering the full consideration of situation and personality. Thus my objection in premise still stands. Until you can present an actual counter claim any further action will be consider contempt. According to popular theology and several sources my statements towards Lucifer is based on Catholic doctrines. Also, the source of Lucifer's fall can be assumed from the King of Tyre reference in the bible. Again if you want an intelligent conversation lets. I am reasonable, if you are reasonable.
Sigh...
Pay attention to the bolded portion above.
Your "judgement" is NOT eternal...
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RE: Humanity's Punishment: If it was a court case.
August 30, 2013 at 10:41 pm
Well I for one am saying even if it isn't eternal it's uncalled for. Or am I on block with you?
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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