My misogyny

[pocaracas]

And for that I give myself a well earned pat on the back. Do you think it's easy going to therapy for this? It's actually embarrassing, especially since I'm a woman myself.

Here, have a kitten.... all chicks like kittens

[KichigaiNeko]

No I don't!

[Captain Colostomy]

As for the observations that I've made about women in general, can you honestly say that they sound outlandish? Do I really sound far fetched? Could there be an element of truth in the criticisms that I've made? Surely I can't be wrong on all counts. I don't see any need to be politically correct so why don't we just be mature and honest about women.

Yes, they are outlandish, and your projecting certain negative attributes onto all women is farfetched. If you insist this is justifiable, you have a long bumpy road to recovery ahead...assuming you even care to 'recover'.

[Kayenneh]

As for the observations that I've made about women in general, can you honestly say that they sound outlandish? Do I really sound far fetched? Could there be an element of truth in the criticisms that I've made? Surely I can't be wrong on all counts. I don't see any need to be politically correct so why don't we just be mature and honest about women.

The problems I have with your 'observations' is that they are too general. Some problems you see with women fit some persons, but does not cover all women. And men are culprits of those things you mentioned too. There's an element of truth indeed, but rather try to apply your criticism towards the individual, not the gender. Not every woman is (like) your mother.

[Kereli]

Captain,

You have specifically referred to the fact that what I've said about women is negative. Also, you're talking about my comments being about all women.

I'd like you to answer me some things.

1) Why do you so specifically have a problem with negative comments about women?

2) Why did you say that I'm talking about all women, when you know that I have obviously made it very clear that I'm making a gneralization?



Kayenneh,

What's wrong with a general observation? Do we not use general observations all the time in order to sum up patterns and tendencies? The issue here isn't whether or not it's a generalization, since we generalize all the time. The real issue is, are the generalizations ones that are commonly found to be true?

For example, if there's an explosion somewhere near a crowd of people, most of the screaming will come from the women, not the men. Generally, men don't scream in such situations. They tend to express their shock in other ways, but it is women who generally scream. We all know this.

And this is what I'm talking about. I thought this was supposed to be a forum for people who like to discuss topics candidly and with sincerity, instead you're all so shitscared of the truth and you hide behind political correctness. What's the matter with people here? We all know that women and men are largely very different. It's the elephant in the room but you're so shitscared of it.

I also notice that when anyone makes a negative generalization about men, no one says a thing. Or when a positive generalization is made about women, again, not a peep. But as soon as someone makes a negative observation about general female characteristics and behaviour, everyone is all up in arms. That's hypocrisy.

[Raeven]

You seem really invested in being right. That makes it a dishonest discussion out of the box. Most here are smart enough to not waste their time.

[Faith No More]

And this is what I'm talking about. I thought this was supposed to be a forum for people who like to discuss topics candidly and with sincerity, instead you're all so shitscared of the truth and you hide behind political correctness. What's the matter with people here? We all know that women and men are largely very different. It's the elephant in the room but you're so shitscared of it.

Don't confuse disagreeing with you with being shitscared of speaking the truth.

It's not about political correctness, nor is it an inability to recognize men and women have differences. The problem is that you're using these differences as a justification to have a negative attitude towards one and a positive towards the other. You're ignoring the positive attributes of women and the negative attributes of men, and then you righteously claim to speak the truth about men and women as if somehow the truth was something that can be reached without half the facts.

I also notice that when anyone makes a negative generalization about men, no one says a thing. Or when a positive generalization is made about women, again, not a peep. But as soon as someone makes a negative observation about general female characteristics and behaviour, everyone is all up in arms. That's hypocrisy.

That is an issue that society has to deal with, not a defense for disliking a group of people based upon generalizations. You see people as their gender, rather than all of the traits that make the individual. There are shitty men and wonderful women out there, but you'll never see it with your blinders on.

[Kayenneh]

What's wrong with a general observation? Do we not use general observations all the time in order to sum up patterns and tendencies?

Sure, but as one individual being your gathering of data is only within a very limited part of the world and no one calls you on your own confirmation bias (e.g. if you think women cry all the time, you'll be sure to see more crying women than you otherwise would).

The issue here isn't whether or not it's a generalization, since we generalize all the time. The real issue is, are the generalizations ones that are commonly found to be true?

The issue is with the generalization, just because we do it all the time does not justify you applying nothing but criticism towards a person, just because of her gender. And no, the generalizations you described does not ring true to me.

For example, if there's an explosion somewhere near a crowd of people, most of the screaming will come from the women, not the men. Generally, men don't scream in such situations. They tend to express their shock in other ways, but it is women who generally scream. We all know this.

We all know this? Proof, please.

I thought this was supposed to be a forum for people who like to discuss topics candidly and with sincerity

We are sincere and candid. Just because most don't agree with you doesn't mean that we're less frank or honest.

instead you're all so shitscared of the truth and you hide behind political correctness.

What truth, what political correctness? You're an idiot for hating based upon your generalizations. This has nothing to do with women, this has to do with you being narrow-minded and wrong on top of that.

What's the matter with people here? We all know that women and men are largely very different. It's the elephant in the room but you're so shitscared of it.

Yes, we're different, what of it? That was not the discussion, don't shift the goalposts.

I also notice that when anyone makes a negative generalization about men, no one says a thing. Or when a positive generalization is made about women, again, not a peep. But as soon as someone makes a negative observation about general female characteristics and behaviour, everyone is all up in arms. That's hypocrisy.

And you generalize. Again.

Let's see this list of yours. I'm going answer all your observations, if they describe me or not.

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They gossip

I don't do it. I don't see the point.

they don't think for themselves (always going with the concensus)

On the contrary, I was notorious in school for always questioning.

they don't appreciate decent men

Wrong. I have the most loving man in my life and I just recently agreed to marry him.

they twist people's words and try to manipulate and shame

This I try to avoid as much as possible and haven't knowingly done it to anyone.

they play damsel in distress when it suits them and miss independence when it suits

Don't we all have our weaknesses and strengths? And as the last question, no, I don't manipulate.

they think that they have to behave like men to be equal (which ironically also makes them misogynists)

Define what 'manly' behaviour is.
To use a horrible cliché, I'm just me.

they don't take accountability for their actions

Such as?

they live worthless empty lives

According to whom? Only you? Everyone makes what he/she want's out of his/her life. My life is precious to me, but is it worthless just because you say so? Is your life worthless, if someone says so? No. Your life has just as much worth as you can appreciate.

Even though I dislike women in general I don't have too much of a problem with women of a few decades ago, they seem far more real and had much more substance.

And that's bullshit. 'Back in the days' women had lot more social pressure to be gossip-y, pretty and only care to marry a husband with wealth.

And they defile their own bodies with stupid piercings and tattoos which I think are absolutely revolting

You are quite free to find tattoos and piercings revolting, but once again, my body, you have no say of things

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Try it out yourself, how many of those fit you (and how many fits your mom). I think that if even more gals of the site would answer, that you would see a clear pattern to how things really are.

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[Walking Void]

I am trying to find a great site about "gender roles", because women are certainly not respected as much as men. Not as much as they should be.

I mean, just look at religious nations. I mean whole entire fucking countries where a religion is in the majority of the people.