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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 10, 2013 at 10:26 pm
(September 10, 2013 at 10:04 am)Doubting Thomas Wrote: (September 9, 2013 at 9:11 pm)Godschild Wrote: Please show me I'm wrong
You were shown you are wrong. You claimed that nowhere in the bible does it say to kill disobedient children, and someone posted the verse from Deuteronomy showing that exact thing. Admit it and move on.
You're as dense as lead, I've explain those verses several times over the last three years, go look them up.
Quote: I've offered to explain those verses even though I know most will reject what I say.
Quote:Because you always come up with some extremely lame bullshit claim as to why a particular bible passage doesn't mean what it means.
I've explained Bible verses by what they say, just because you're to dense to understand them is not my fault.
Quote:But I'm interested, please lay on your bullshit interpretation of that passage and explain why it doesn't mean that unruly children should be killed. I'll start making popcorn.
Go look up what I've said in the past Mr. Leadhead, it will be the same as I would say now and I do not have the time to waste on people who do not care.
 GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 10, 2013 at 10:37 pm
Because he's taking the text in the Bible at face value he's dense? Do we need to explain special pleading to you yet again, GC?
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 11, 2013 at 12:08 am
(This post was last modified: September 11, 2013 at 12:11 am by Mystical.)
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 11, 2013 at 1:16 am
(September 10, 2013 at 10:12 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: (September 10, 2013 at 5:46 pm)catfish Wrote: You said: "I'm aware you don't believe Aeon to be an indefinite amount of time"
You have the same lack of reading comprehension as the others it may seem.
I meant infinite fishy. I corrected it later. http://atheistforums.org/thread-20756-po...#pid504393 See what I mean about giberish? This is one reason I don't bother responding to you most of the time. You didn't correct it, you defended it by saying that's what you said (were you lying?), not that's what you meant. But that doesn't even matter, it was all just a deflection tactic used by yourself to avoid supporting your bare assertion.
(September 10, 2013 at 10:12 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: You seem to be the one with a lack of reading comprehension (or justifiable point) because you can't seem to even address directly the evidence I brought to you. LOL, I told you I'd laugh at this. It's been addressed. Your whole premise of " Any amount of time in torment is uncalled for by a benevolent creator-- who, by the way, was described by the very same word therefore he's either not eternal or everything else is eternal" is incorrect as the word used to describe God in your quoted verse is aidios. Will you deny this one more time for my amusememnt please?
Again though, it doesn't matter as this is yet another deflection ploy to avoid your burden of proof.
(September 10, 2013 at 10:12 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: In any case, I retract my request and officially ask you to fuck off, troll. My half passed out dog curled up next to me has more to say than you do. Right, still refusing to admit that you can't provide proof of this bare assertion:
(September 9, 2013 at 6:00 pm)catfish Wrote: (September 9, 2013 at 1:16 pm)missluckie26 Wrote: Aractus why exactly don't you believe the Bible is the unerring word of god? It says it is, after all. And it says to follow it or you will go to hell. ...
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Proof of claim?
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 11, 2013 at 1:31 am
Catty, you seriously need to do something better with your time. Go find a soup kitchen and volunteer. Go work at an animal rescue shelter. Go to a meet and greet and interact with real people. Your life will be better for you and all around you.
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 11, 2013 at 2:22 am
(September 10, 2013 at 9:17 pm)catfish Wrote: (September 10, 2013 at 8:34 pm)Captain Colostomy Wrote: ...and an expected deflection in 5...4...3...2...
LOL, that question is his deflection.
The wheels on the bus go round and round,
round and round, round and round.
The wheels on the bus go round and round,
all through the town.
Your continued refusal to acknowledge from whence you stand speaks volumes to your character and credibility. I assume it's because you're unsure of what you yourself believe, and you take satisfaction in taking pot shots at those who do. It's your perogative, but it smacks of dishonesty.
I may be wrong, but I don't expect you to be forthright in correcting me. Hell, even if you try, no one else whose noticed your MO will blame me for doubting anything you say.
(I also suspect you have a baby penis, but that's a topic for another day.)
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 11, 2013 at 2:38 am
(September 11, 2013 at 2:22 am)Captain Colostomy Wrote: The wheels on the bus go round and round,
round and round, round and round.
The wheels on the bus go round and round,
all through the town.
Your continued refusal to acknowledge from whence you stand speaks volumes to your character and credibility. I assume it's because you're unsure of what you yourself believe, and you take satisfaction in taking pot shots at those who do. It's your perogative, but it smacks of dishonesty.
I may be wrong, but I don't expect you to be forthright in correcting me. Hell, even if you try, no one else whose noticed your MO will blame me for doubting anything you say.
(I also suspect you have a baby penis, but that's a topic for another day.)
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 11, 2013 at 2:49 am
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 11, 2013 at 3:17 am
So much for a productive dialogue.
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RE: A small thanks to the resident Theists..
September 11, 2013 at 5:13 am
(September 10, 2013 at 10:04 pm)Godschild Wrote: (September 10, 2013 at 4:20 am)Heir Apparent Wrote: Surely that's already been done by 3-4 people already, probably more. I don't need to parrot what they've said already.
And I don't see my beliefs being challenged. Would you like to?
No one has been able to discredit my beliefs, want to have a go at it or are you going to let an opportunity flit by. You have no idea what others have said.
GC
On second thought, I've changed my mind. You say you've been here three years? That's all the reason I need right there to suspect that you're one of those believers. The ones who are so deeply dug into their little worlds that they won't even consider what anyone tells them. Therefore, there is no point in repeating what I already said, or bringing up any further counter arguments.
That or your an extremely dedicated (and sad) Poe/troll.
I just have to ask though, what IS your purpose here? In three years you must have realized that no one here will be converted.
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