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Evolution and the believers
#11
RE: Evolution and the believers
He's not attacking Americans in general. He's just pointing out the fact that America has, within the developed world at least, a serious problem with dramatically stupid people being in position to force children to learn fairy tales as if they were more than that.
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#12
RE: Evolution and the believers
(September 13, 2013 at 12:22 pm)gall Wrote:
(September 13, 2013 at 9:13 am)LastPoet Wrote: Save your nationalistic pride for someone that cares, there is no need to misinterpret what I've said. There are catholics around here too, that believe in creationism, but there are so few of them and they aren't fighting to get it into public school.

Maybe you should go reread what you put here until you understand I am not calling anyone out just curious why you felt the need to when this forum area is not about nationalism but rather religion.

I don't really see the point of what you are saying. you blatantly call out Americans for something that HUMANS all do in areas of the world in which Catholics live which is most areas of the first world and even more in the third world such as south America (not so much in africa i would guess).

Please don't misunderstand me I have no ill will and just wonder why you choose to word what you are saying the way you did. It sure seems like an attack on nationality to me.

Most of my country people are idiots, I can understand why you might have this view just not sure why you wrote it like that thinking it would not get a reaction like this from someone?

Oh and don't make the mistake of thinking I care. I don't about most things I do this for fun and I am guessing it gets under your skin in a personal way that it does not to me.

If I offended you I would suggest you survey your own thoughts rather than make accusations.

If you meant something different you should have been more careful in your wording. If I am taking it the wrong way then be more clear.

Could be wrong here but it does seem to be something of an American Christian disease.

I don't know of any other country where there was a huge push to get id taught in schools, as part of the science curriculum. Looking on-line every creationist or id site and video I have found appears to be american.

This isn't racism - its just what I have observed. I am sure there are others all over the world that believe this stuff - but the proportions and the level of vociferousness appear to make this a mainly US disease.
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#13
RE: Evolution and the believers
(September 13, 2013 at 3:50 am)Atheist McTighe Wrote: ok. let me say it this way, why do people doubt evolution?


Well, for one thing you are dealing with fuckwits who think the earth is 6,000 years old and they have this absurd book of bullshit which says that their equally absurd "god" created everything in six days.

They can't part with their fairy tales so they reject anything which calls them into doubt.

It's actually very simple.....just like they are.


Welcome.
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#14
RE: Evolution and the believers
(September 13, 2013 at 12:22 pm)gall Wrote: Maybe you should go reread what you put here until you understand I am not calling anyone out just curious why you felt the need to when this forum area is not about nationalism but rather religion.

Yet again you are getting all worked up about... nothing that I care about, like I said, stupid nationalisms are not for me. Is it not true that creationism is being pushed into American schools?

Quote:I don't really see the point of what you are saying. you blatantly call out Americans for something that HUMANS all do in areas of the world in which Catholics live which is most areas of the first world and even more in the third world such as south America (not so much in africa i would guess).
There is no Ill will in me to point out that the US, the most powerfull nation on Earth, has people pushing for a fairytale to be taugh in schools. I would admit that in a so called "third world country". But in America? Really?
Quote:Please don't misunderstand me I have no ill will and just wonder why you choose to word what you are saying the way you did. It sure seems like an attack on nationality to me.

Most of my country people are idiots, I can understand why you might have this view just not sure why you wrote it like that thinking it would not get a reaction like this from someone?

Oh and don't make the mistake of thinking I care. I don't about most things I do this for fun and I am guessing it gets under your skin in a personal way that it does not to me.

If I offended you I would suggest you survey your own thoughts rather than make accusations.

Hey, you are the one coming out swinguing at me, just for saying that creationism is of no concern here in Portugal, where I live, despite alot of batshit catholics around. It is a concern in the US, deal with it.

Quote:If you meant something different you should have been more careful in your wording. If I am taking it the wrong way then be more clear.

I will not be carefull because of your over-interpretation of what I said. If you take any critique to your vaunted place of birth as an attack, then its your fucking problem. Go read my first post again, come back to me, to apologize for your foolish misplaced pride.
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#15
RE: Evolution and the believers
As far as I know, and I originate from asia, been in school in 4 different countries in varying lengths of time. Mostly asia and N. america. I have yet to see a country with textbooks teaching creationism or some other "alternative". I know of countries that keep evolution out of school, but no alternative is taught in its place. Creationism does appear to be an american problem.

I have no idea why. I do think it's a first world problems. People feel they're entitled to alter facts just because it makes them uncomfortable.
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#16
RE: Evolution and the believers
(September 13, 2013 at 12:43 pm)Minimalist Wrote: They can't part with their fairy tales so they reject anything which calls them into doubt.

Yes, it's an increasingly sad attempt to shoehorn observed reality into the pages of a storybook. Then they blame reality for being wrong when it won't fit. That or pretend that it actually fits perfectly, while trying desperately to hide the bits that stick out.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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