Evolutionist theory has no answer to how I can never find my keys, either. Stupid made up shit....
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Can raw energy create Order
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God created Adam and Eve, and then their children had babies, and you are the product of this incest.
So evolution doesn't real.
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(September 14, 2013 at 11:37 am)Rationalman Wrote: Abiogenesis concerns the appearance of life from non organic molecules.So abiogenesis is covered in evolution textbooks because...? (September 16, 2013 at 8:13 am)John V Wrote: So abiogenesis is covered in evolution textbooks because...? Fancy that, a Christian blindly following a book, who would have thunk it
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If abiogenesis is in an evolution textbook, it's to explain possible origins of life - and then, it will continue to discuss what that life does once it's here (evolve). There's physics in my sedimentology textbook - physics and sedimentology are different subjects. Hell, there's even astronomy in my petrology book, primarily to understand the scale of age, and it's just the first chapter.
(September 16, 2013 at 8:13 am)John V Wrote: So abiogenesis is covered in evolution textbooks because...? Do you understand how two concepts can be related without being connected? Without one depending on the other? Abiogenesis is the best current theory for the origins of life, in that it has some degree of theoretical scaffolding and experimental results to its name. Evolution is the- entirely confirmed and factual- theory regarding the diversity of extant life; to the degree that they are connected at all in a scientific sense, it is down to this. Creationists tend to conflate the two and somewhat dominate the conversation about evolution in the public sphere, but they are different concepts for those with intellectual honesty. You wouldn't say that bread and cheese are the same thing because they are ingredients for a sandwich, so don't go around saying evolution and abiogenesis are the same thing because they concern life.
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He never actually came back to defend his post did he?
Or was this just a thumbs up Africa smile moment for him? Re: RE: Can raw energy create Order
September 16, 2013 at 11:14 am
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2013 at 11:14 am by NoraBrimstone.)
(September 16, 2013 at 8:13 am)John V Wrote:As if you've ever read a textbook!(September 14, 2013 at 11:37 am)Rationalman Wrote: Abiogenesis concerns the appearance of life from non organic molecules.So abiogenesis is covered in evolution textbooks because...? RE: Can raw energy create Order
September 16, 2013 at 11:21 am
(This post was last modified: September 16, 2013 at 11:24 am by Zone.)
There's a massive amount of stuff about life and the universe and everything we don't know but it doesn't mean it has anything to do with virgin births, resurrections from the dead or some guy with a hat chanting over bread and transforming it into the body of 2000 year old god. As for abiogenesis, well you could equally well say that inter-dimensional aliens created the first strand of DNA and seeded the planet with it. That would be intelligent design but without God or anything supernatural involved. Though you would probably reject the suggestion if there's no evidence for interdimensional aliens.
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