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RE: Part 3
September 16, 2013 at 10:24 pm
Maybe Archelaus was made of iron, God's Kryptonite.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Part 3
September 16, 2013 at 11:21 pm
(September 16, 2013 at 10:24 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Maybe Archelaus was made of iron, God's Kryptonite.
Hey when Augustus told him to get out of Jerusalem, he went. Now the Divine Augustus, that was a god!
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RE: Part 3
September 17, 2013 at 2:38 am
(September 16, 2013 at 4:17 pm)Drich Wrote: (September 16, 2013 at 2:51 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: First off that is circular logic. Second of all when I was a Christian that is exactly what I did. I prayed for proof, to make me a better Christian and to strengthen my faith for months on end. You can guess at the results. Nothing, nottah, zippo
Have you considered that before God can show you proof you must first go through a process of "Questioning all things and hold on to what is good?" (and discard the rest.) Because if you have a wrong Idea of God and then you receive 'proof' of God then wouldn't that fortify the idea of God you already had? What if God did not want you to have that idea of Him in the first place?
How then is it unreasonable to assume that a systematic wholesale questioning of everything you believe is not first ordered or mandated by God? is essence your current atheism? Which if you are honest and truly seek answers, God will see to it you have them. He did for me. The only thing He requires in return is that you are faithful to those answers. Meaning you do not disregaurd them simply because you want to simply not believe in God.
(September 16, 2013 at 3:52 pm)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: You mean righteous acts like murdering gays?
So me a command where Christians are commanded to kill gays.
(September 16, 2013 at 4:11 pm)Stimbo Wrote: This thread is very Shakespeareian: "It is a tale told by an idiot; full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
The sound and fury in this case being total insistence on presuppositionalism and determination to abdicate responsibilty for the burden of proof. Drich, if you actually had any such proof, you wouldn't be trying anything like this hard. That's why our bullshit meters are shooting off the scale.
Actually no. God is responsiable for the burden of proof. I am only responsiable to tell you how to petition God for that 'proof.'
(September 16, 2013 at 4:12 pm)Rationalman Wrote: And that is relevant how?
Even if that was true, does that somehow make your god the one and true god? Because he says so?
To 'our' discussion? it's not. That is why it is best for you to color on your own paper, and not on your neighbors. What if it was totally indistinguishable from his non existence.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: Part 3
September 17, 2013 at 3:35 am
(September 16, 2013 at 4:09 pm)Drich Wrote: [quote='Fidel_Castronaut' pid='506876' dateline='1379353023']
You do know that no other religion makes that claim right?
Naturally. Nobody but you worships the specific deity you invented and wholeheartedly (and with amazing arrogance) insist is the One True God.
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RE: Part 3
September 17, 2013 at 12:03 pm
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(September 16, 2013 at 4:44 pm)Maelstrom Wrote: You have no real proof of god. Yes, I can state that, knowing it is true. Just because you guys keep telling yourself this does not make it any more true.
Again, I have all the proof I need, and you can too if you just A/S/K as outlined in luke 11.
Quote:I suppose you are too lazy to have read the countless times we mentioned what type of proof was necessary for us to believe that your god exists. And you accuse us of not properly reading your posts?
No you haven't the only person to ever answer me wanted to marry caprica 6. None of you guys knows what 'proof' of God is even supposed to look like.
(September 17, 2013 at 2:38 am)Lemonvariable72 Wrote: What if it was totally indistinguishable from his non existence.
So are Atoms, and even galaxies if not examined using a very specific method.
Why should God be any different?
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RE: Part 3
September 17, 2013 at 12:10 pm
Quote:Again, I have all the proof I need, and you can too if you just A/S/K as outlined in luke 11.
That's because you are a credulous fool, Drippy.
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RE: Part 3
September 17, 2013 at 12:27 pm
That plus he exepcts everyone else to be one as well. Must be lonely in his little bubble.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Part 3
September 17, 2013 at 12:28 pm
(September 17, 2013 at 12:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:Again, I have all the proof I need, and you can too if you just A/S/K as outlined in luke 11.
That's because you are a credulous fool, Drippy.
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I really do have Proof of God. Proof that does not have me seek the aproval or acceptance of anyone else.
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RE: Part 3
September 17, 2013 at 12:30 pm
I choose option #1.
The delusional always think their delusions are real.
(They are not.)
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RE: Part 3
September 17, 2013 at 1:51 pm
(September 17, 2013 at 12:28 pm)Drich Wrote: (September 17, 2013 at 12:10 pm)Minimalist Wrote: That's because you are a credulous fool, Drippy.
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I really do have Proof of God. Proof that does not have me seek the aproval or acceptance of anyone else.
That's why, to me, proof of the existence of the god of the bible comes in the form of it showing itself to everyone on the planet and imparting some of its knowledge...
If the guy only shows up to a handful of people, then you can't rule out any psychological effect... a vivid imagination... or plain lying.
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