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RE: Part 3
September 18, 2013 at 9:38 am
Even if this "Ask, Seek and Knock" thing was valid, that's not how searching for knowledge works. First you would have to Seek the person before you could possibly Knock on his door and Ask. How else could you even know that the person exists or where his door is? In other words, it's that favourite little con trick of the neo-fundy: presuppositionalism, making its umpteenth showing in this thread alone.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Part 3
September 18, 2013 at 9:42 am
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(September 18, 2013 at 8:25 am)Drich Wrote: What I believe is God puts a god shaped hole in all of our hearts, and itis up to us to fill that hole with God.
What's more apparent is that you have a hole in your understanding of reality, and you've taken it upon yourself to fill that hole with God.
Whether or not the hole is God shaped seems to be irrelevent to you, as you seem to have no problem forcing it in, even when it doesn't fit.
(September 18, 2013 at 9:38 am)Stimbo Wrote: Even if this "Ask, Seek and Knock" thing was valid, that's not how searching for knowledge works. First you would have to Seek the person before you could possibly Knock on his door and Ask. How else could you even know that the person exists or where his door is? In other words, it's that favourite little con trick of the neo-fundy: presuppositionalism, making its umpteenth showing in this thread alone.
Indeed, but what motivates one to seek that which has no sign of existing in the first place?
Ask/ (Who or What exactly?)
/Seek/ (Why, and Seek what?)
/Knock (What the fuck are you talking about?)
The whole concept is intellectually bankrupt.
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RE: Part 3
September 18, 2013 at 10:10 am
That's why I used that other fundy favourite, the 'if' qualifier. To complete the process: if the A/S/K thing is not valid, the whole structure collapses into its own footprint - or disappears up its own arse, whichever image is more satisfying.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Part 3
September 18, 2013 at 10:41 am
I like the arse version best.
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RE: Part 3
September 18, 2013 at 10:44 am
That's what they all say. Afterwards.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Part 3
September 18, 2013 at 11:24 am
(September 18, 2013 at 9:42 am)Texas Sailor Wrote: (September 18, 2013 at 8:25 am)Drich Wrote: What I believe is God puts a god shaped hole in all of our hearts, and itis up to us to fill that hole with God.
What's more apparent is that you have a hole in your understanding of reality, and you've taken it upon yourself to fill that hole with God.
Whether or not the hole is God shaped seems to be irrelevent to you, as you seem to have no problem forcing it in, even when it doesn't fit.
(September 18, 2013 at 9:38 am)Stimbo Wrote: Even if this "Ask, Seek and Knock" thing was valid, that's not how searching for knowledge works. First you would have to Seek the person before you could possibly Knock on his door and Ask. How else could you even know that the person exists or where his door is? In other words, it's that favourite little con trick of the neo-fundy: presuppositionalism, making its umpteenth showing in this thread alone.

Indeed, but what motivates one to seek that which has no sign of existing in the first place?
Ask/ (Who or What exactly?)
/Seek/ (Why, and Seek what?)
/Knock (What the fuck are you talking about?)
The whole concept is intellectually bankrupt.
Good grief - is that what it means? I wasn't sure and I didn't feeling comfortable a/s/king.
Actually I am quite relieved. Listening to some of the theists on here I assumed is meant:
Aim the Gun.
Squeeze the trigger.
Kill the atheist.
You know - in the best traditions of Christianity....
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RE: Part 3
September 18, 2013 at 12:21 pm
(September 17, 2013 at 2:43 pm)Drich Wrote: I know I've told you at least 1/2 a dozen times now.
Ask/Seek/Knock as out lined in luke 11:
5 And He said to them, “Which of you shall have a friend, and go to him at midnight and say to him, ‘Friend, lend me three loaves; 6 for a friend of mine has come to me on his journey, and I have nothing to set before him’; 7 and he will answer from within and say, ‘Do not trouble me; the door is now shut, and my children are with me in bed; I cannot rise and give to you’? 8 I say to you, though he will not rise and give to him because he is his friend, yet because of his persistence he will rise and give him as many as he needs. 9 “So I say to you, ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 10 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 11 If a son asks for bread[d] from any father among you, will he give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will he give him a serpent instead of a fish? 12 Or if he asks for an egg, will he offer him a scorpion? 13 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him!”
If you receive the Holy Spirit/If you receive a measure of God to indewell you. What better proof of God than God Himself?
Drich, I've heard this method before....many times...from relatives
They tell me that it does work.
Problem is ..............................they're.. MORMONS
WHAT UP WITH THAT?????
How are my heretic/cultist (according to my other protestant relatives....when no mormons are around>>hehehehe) tuning in to your lord and savior???
Does jesus have a split personality???
Is jesus working both sides of the street???
ALSO: could you reply to my post #80 in the "How stupid do you have to be thread..".
thanks
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RE: Part 3
September 18, 2013 at 1:47 pm
(September 18, 2013 at 10:44 am)Stimbo Wrote: That's what they all say. Afterwards.
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RE: Part 3
September 18, 2013 at 2:29 pm
(September 18, 2013 at 9:27 am)Drich Wrote: any more questions on the OP?
Do we need to continue showing how Bart erhman book fails, or are we done?
You were done when you started, asshole. Clearly the book is far beyond your limited mentality.
True, Ehrman was writing for the layman. But he was not writing for flaming shitheads like you.
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