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RE: They Are Going To Have To Kill This Fucker
October 1, 2013 at 2:05 am
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(September 26, 2013 at 2:50 pm)Cinjin Wrote: (September 21, 2013 at 9:22 am)Drich Wrote: Well it depends on whether or not you are rooting for the apocalypse or not. Because these events are enough for God to decide that He has had enough..
Truthfully, I'd be honored to be apart of that last Generation. To see it all come to an end, and to do an 'i told you so dance.' (kinda like the whole Danny Mc Bride/James Franco scene in 'This is the End.') I'll be like "F-you Minnie Mcbride!"
So tell me something Drich the Apocadancer, will jesus and his mom dance the 'I told you so' dance along with you as they're casting souls into hell? Will you three gleefully be grabbing souls and yelling out jokingly, "more kindling please! Dad needs a good warm fire!" Tell me, is there anything more joyful at the end of days than watching your favorite deity torture people for all eternity? Goddamn all you christards are such fucking hypocrites.
You're never going to see a tall white nordic messiah with red hair coming down out of the sky to scoop you for a big wet kiss. You're not going to meet your grand pappy on a golden street to swap stories about the good ole days for the rest of time. And no one is EVER going to give you crowns of gold and jewels for showing up on an atheist website to piss people off and educate the world and how painfully ignorant one has to be to be a christian.
Anyone who believes this fairytale is a half-wit ... anyone who tries to sell it to others is god damn douche bag.
You know if I believed as you apparently do that all people are basically 'good' then I could potentially see the unfairness that you see.
What I see, Christ died so you do not have to, and IF you do not accept Him dying in your stead, then according to Christ all wrath of God will come to bare on you. If you will read Isaiah 53 10 it says it pleased God to Chrush Him. Meaning Christ. Why? Because Christ represented the sins of Humanity. If it pleased God to Chrush His Son for bearing the sins of Humanity, then understand with all your heart, not one tear will be shed for those who stand in willful defiance.
Don't confuse this watershed moment for a simple I told you so. We will be well past that. What I was trying to express with some misplaced levity was a hunger and thirst for righteousness as per mat 5 in the be attitudes. Righteousness demands accountability for what in this case a particular person says...
I paired this hunger and thirst for righteousness with an illustration of placing myself I. The position of a self righteous James Franco gloating as he starts to accend to Heaven, at the sins and unsaved nature of a outwardly evil Danny mcbride. If you haven't seen the movie then maybe that explains why you missed the point I was illustrating...
My going to Heaven much like Franco In The movie is well undeserved, and can be taken from me if I were to press the merits of my own righteousness, just like what happened to Franco just after his gloating was complete. A point lost on the mighty cyngine, in favor of a Sunday school lesson on who he thinks God should be.
I was just trying to make a funny about the the guy on the website who is next in line to try and spit in God's eye.
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RE: They Are Going To Have To Kill This Fucker
October 1, 2013 at 2:19 am
"You know if I believed as you apparently do that all people are basically 'good' then I could potentially see the unfairness that you see."
And there it is folks - the real evil of Christianity.
To be a Christian means you have to reject, out-of-hand the idea that people are basically good and therefore conclude that they are basically evil. Oh the horrors you can perpetrate in the name of God once you've taken that step.
And how evil are people? So evil that the only acceptable price for their sin is human sacrifice. What a giant leap forwards for humanity Christianity is.
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October 1, 2013 at 2:48 am
Well it's not like Hitchens was blowing hot air out his ass when he stated that "religion poisons everything". Last I checked, Christianity falls within those parameters, and, Max, you did an excellent job pointing out how the Christian mindset is indeed poisoned.
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RE: They Are Going To Have To Kill This Fucker
October 1, 2013 at 3:28 am
(October 1, 2013 at 2:05 am)Drich Wrote: I was just trying to make a funny about the the guy on the website who is next in line to try and spit in God's eye.
And instead you showed what a bloodthirsty and mean spirited person you really are. Twice!
Why am I not surprised?
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RE: They Are Going To Have To Kill This Fucker
October 1, 2013 at 4:43 pm
(October 1, 2013 at 2:05 am)Drich Wrote: You know if I believed as you apparently do that all people are basically 'good' then I could potentially see the unfairness that you see.
What I see, Christ died so you do not have to, and IF you do not accept Him dying in your stead, then according to Christ all wrath of God will come to bare on you. If you will read Isaiah 53 10 it says it pleased God to Chrush Him. Meaning Christ. Why? Because Christ represented the sins of Humanity. If it pleased God to Chrush His Son for bearing the sins of Humanity, then understand with all your heart, not one tear will be shed for those who stand in willful defiance.
Don't confuse this watershed moment for a simple I told you so. We will be well past that. What I was trying to express with some misplaced levity was a hunger and thirst for righteousness as per mat 5 in the be attitudes. Righteousness demands accountability for what in this case a particular person says...
I paired this hunger and thirst for righteousness with an illustration of placing myself I. The position of a self righteous James Franco gloating as he starts to accend to Heaven, at the sins and unsaved nature of a outwardly evil Danny mcbride. If you haven't seen the movie then maybe that explains why you missed the point I was illustrating...
My going to Heaven much like Franco In The movie is well undeserved, and can be taken from me if I were to press the merits of my own righteousness, just like what happened to Franco just after his gloating was complete. A point lost on the mighty cyngine, in favor of a Sunday school lesson on who he thinks God should be.
I was just trying to make a funny about the the guy on the website who is next in line to try and spit in God's eye.
You just can't get it through that tiny brain can you? You can't use the Bible to back up claims that come from the Bible. I don't know how you and the rest of the christards can't see this. Explaining to me why or how your ludicrous system works doesn't sway me towards belief and it sure as hell doesn't overcome the myriad of contradictions and blatant immorality that originate from your messiah. Furthermore, the explanation you offered up for your typical christian hypocrisy only makes you look like a bigger d-bag.
There is however, one plus that I have as a deist over the atheists: I believe in the possible reincarnation of the soul. Which means that unlike the atheists, I'll be the one to tell you, "I told you so," and not the other way around. The difference between me and you of course is that I won't fucking care either way what happens to your soul and I sure as hell don't take enjoyment in seeing you or any other fucktard burning forever in some dictator's torture chamber.
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RE: They Are Going To Have To Kill This Fucker
October 1, 2013 at 8:39 pm
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(October 1, 2013 at 2:19 am)max-greece Wrote: "You know if I believed as you apparently do that all people are basically 'good' then I could potentially see the unfairness that you see."
And there it is folks - the real evil of Christianity.
To be a Christian means you have to reject, out-of-hand the idea that people are basically good and therefore conclude that they are basically evil. Oh the horrors you can perpetrate in the name of God once you've taken that step.
And how evil are people? So evil that the only acceptable price for their sin is human sacrifice. What a giant leap forwards for humanity Christianity is.
How evil are people? Evil enough for a righteous God to send them to Hell if they do not seek redemption for their sin.
Why don't we see it? Why didn't the death camp nazis see what they did as being evil? Because their 'morality' justified their actions, just like your 'morality' tells you and everyone else is basically a 'good' person.
(October 1, 2013 at 3:28 am)Esquilax Wrote: (October 1, 2013 at 2:05 am)Drich Wrote: I was just trying to make a funny about the the guy on the website who is next in line to try and spit in God's eye.
And instead you showed what a bloodthirsty and mean spirited person you really are. Twice!
Why am I not surprised?
I have to concede the point.
(October 1, 2013 at 4:43 pm)Cinjin Wrote: (October 1, 2013 at 2:05 am)Drich Wrote: You know if I believed as you apparently do that all people are basically 'good' then I could potentially see the unfairness that you see.
What I see, Christ died so you do not have to, and IF you do not accept Him dying in your stead, then according to Christ all wrath of God will come to bare on you. If you will read Isaiah 53 10 it says it pleased God to Chrush Him. Meaning Christ. Why? Because Christ represented the sins of Humanity. If it pleased God to Chrush His Son for bearing the sins of Humanity, then understand with all your heart, not one tear will be shed for those who stand in willful defiance.
Don't confuse this watershed moment for a simple I told you so. We will be well past that. What I was trying to express with some misplaced levity was a hunger and thirst for righteousness as per mat 5 in the be attitudes. Righteousness demands accountability for what in this case a particular person says...
I paired this hunger and thirst for righteousness with an illustration of placing myself I. The position of a self righteous James Franco gloating as he starts to accend to Heaven, at the sins and unsaved nature of a outwardly evil Danny mcbride. If you haven't seen the movie then maybe that explains why you missed the point I was illustrating...
My going to Heaven much like Franco In The movie is well undeserved, and can be taken from me if I were to press the merits of my own righteousness, just like what happened to Franco just after his gloating was complete. A point lost on the mighty cyngine, in favor of a Sunday school lesson on who he thinks God should be.
I was just trying to make a funny about the the guy on the website who is next in line to try and spit in God's eye.
You just can't get it through that tiny brain can you? You can't use the Bible to back up claims that come from the Bible. I don't know how you and the rest of the christards can't see this. Explaining to me why or how your ludicrous system works doesn't sway me towards belief and it sure as hell doesn't overcome the myriad of contradictions and blatant immorality that originate from your messiah. Furthermore, the explanation you offered up for your typical christian hypocrisy only makes you look like a bigger d-bag.
There is however, one plus that I have as a deist over the atheists: I believe in the possible reincarnation of the soul. Which means that unlike the atheists, I'll be the one to tell you, "I told you so," and not the other way around. The difference between me and you of course is that I won't fucking care either way what happens to your soul and I sure as hell don't take enjoyment in seeing you or any other fucktard burning forever in some dictator's torture chamber.
What are you even talking about? did you see the word Isaiah and stop read to drag out an arguement that does not even apply to what is being said?
(October 1, 2013 at 4:43 pm)Cinjin Wrote: (October 1, 2013 at 2:05 am)Drich Wrote: You know if I believed as you apparently do that all people are basically 'good' then I could potentially see the unfairness that you see.
What I see, Christ died so you do not have to, and IF you do not accept Him dying in your stead, then according to Christ all wrath of God will come to bare on you. If you will read Isaiah 53 10 it says it pleased God to Chrush Him. Meaning Christ. Why? Because Christ represented the sins of Humanity. If it pleased God to Chrush His Son for bearing the sins of Humanity, then understand with all your heart, not one tear will be shed for those who stand in willful defiance.
Don't confuse this watershed moment for a simple I told you so. We will be well past that. What I was trying to express with some misplaced levity was a hunger and thirst for righteousness as per mat 5 in the be attitudes. Righteousness demands accountability for what in this case a particular person says...
I paired this hunger and thirst for righteousness with an illustration of placing myself I. The position of a self righteous James Franco gloating as he starts to accend to Heaven, at the sins and unsaved nature of a outwardly evil Danny mcbride. If you haven't seen the movie then maybe that explains why you missed the point I was illustrating...
My going to Heaven much like Franco In The movie is well undeserved, and can be taken from me if I were to press the merits of my own righteousness, just like what happened to Franco just after his gloating was complete. A point lost on the mighty cyngine, in favor of a Sunday school lesson on who he thinks God should be.
I was just trying to make a funny about the the guy on the website who is next in line to try and spit in God's eye.
You just can't get it through that tiny brain can you? You can't use the Bible to back up claims that come from the Bible. I don't know how you and the rest of the christards can't see this. Explaining to me why or how your ludicrous system works doesn't sway me towards belief and it sure as hell doesn't overcome the myriad of contradictions and blatant immorality that originate from your messiah. Furthermore, the explanation you offered up for your typical christian hypocrisy only makes you look like a bigger d-bag.
There is however, one plus that I have as a deist over the atheists: I believe in the possible reincarnation of the soul. Which means that unlike the atheists, I'll be the one to tell you, "I told you so," and not the other way around. The difference between me and you of course is that I won't fucking care either way what happens to your soul and I sure as hell don't take enjoyment in seeing you or any other fucktard burning forever in some dictator's torture chamber.
What are you even talking about? did you see the word Isaiah and stop read to drag out an arguement that does not even apply to what is being said?
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RE: They Are Going To Have To Kill This Fucker
October 2, 2013 at 5:34 am
(October 1, 2013 at 8:39 pm)Drich Wrote: How evil are people? Evil enough for a righteous God to send them to Hell if they do not seek redemption for their sin.
Actually, many prominent Nazis became famous for deflecting blame by claiming that they were simply carrying out the orders of their superiors. That is to say, they relied on the moral judgments of those superiors and simply acted without questioning whether their orders were moral or not. In essence, they had elevated their superiors to godhood, where their moral pronouncements were above judgment. So when those superiors ordered them to kill and pillage and torture and destroy, they did so without any pangs of guilt.
It is reminiscent of Yahweh and the nation of Israel in the old testament.
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RE: They Are Going To Have To Kill This Fucker
October 2, 2013 at 8:53 am
Drich, are you aware of the Milgram experiment? If not give it look over.
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RE: They Are Going To Have To Kill This Fucker
October 2, 2013 at 9:08 am
"How evil are people? Evil enough for a righteous God to send them to Hell if they do not seek redemption for their sin.
Why don't we see it? Why didn't the death camp nazis see what they did as being evil? Because their 'morality' justified their actions, just like your 'morality' tells you and everyone else is basically a 'good' person."
You want to go there? Really? OK.
The death camp Nazi's were almost entirely Christian. They were used to following the instructions of a dictator having been immersed in Christianity from birth. That dictator did appalling things whilst claiming to be a loving God. With that kind of background switching God for Hitler and following the instruction to turn on the gas taps was a breeze.
The trick the bible uses, in God's name, is the same at that used by any dictatorship - dehumanize the enemy. If you can convince your followers that the enemy is evil, inhuman, performing unnatural acts, cavorting with the devil or denying your God it appears to be worryingly easy.
People as individuals are rarely evil (except for psychotics and the like). People only ever get truly evil when acting in the name of something. That might be a political philosophy or ideology, it might be a religion or something else. Even then it usually additionally requires a group mentality with concordant peer pressure and so on.
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October 2, 2013 at 9:17 am
Also have a look at the Zimbardo prison experiment
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