I have a question about noah's flood.

[Bad Writer]

I would suggest you use hide tags on the above picture...but that would ruin the post.

[Minimalist]

I just hope that Noah was more effective in getting the shit out of the ark than xtians have been in getting the shit out of the bible.

[Captain Colostomy]

Oh, think of the fun.....

Is that a rabbi from the lost tribe in Ethiopia tootin' a shofar? Neat-o.

[Doubting Thomas]

The problem with the entire Noah myth is that there are so many impossibilities with the story that you could write a series of books on them and still not cover everything. But that doesn't stop fundie Christians from insisting the story is literally true. It's even funnier when they claim to have actually found Noah's ark in Turkey.

Anyone claiming that it was just a local flood is wrong according to the bible, which claims that the flood waters covered the highest mountains upward of 18 cubits (IIRC). And frankly, if it wasn't a total global flood, then trying to drown all people on the planet is useless because at least some people could find higher ground. So I think Christians arguing whether or not the flood myth in Genesis was just a local or a global flood is pretty silly. On the one hand, you have a group of Christians who have to admit that, if it were just a large local flood, the bible is wrong when it says the highest mountains were covered, and on the other hand you have Christians who are arguing for the literal truth of a global flood which is totally impossible. It's like arguing whether Star Wars or Star Trek is more realistic, with the exception that these people really believe the sci fi actually happened.

I don't doubt that the biblical myth probably had its roots in the Epic of Gilgamesh, which was probably a story based upon a large local flood. But anyone actually believing that it is 100% real is a fool. And teaching the story to children while glossing over the deaths of who knows how many people is heinous.

[bladevalant546]

The problem with the entire Noah myth is that there are so many impossibilities with the story that you could write a series of books on them and still not cover everything. But that doesn't stop fundie Christians from insisting the story is literally true. It's even funnier when they claim to have actually found Noah's ark in Turkey.

Anyone claiming that it was just a local flood is wrong according to the bible, which claims that the flood waters covered the highest mountains upward of 18 cubits (IIRC). And frankly, if it wasn't a total global flood, then trying to drown all people on the planet is useless because at least some people could find higher ground. So I think Christians arguing whether or not the flood myth in Genesis was just a local or a global flood is pretty silly. On the one hand, you have a group of Christians who have to admit that, if it were just a large local flood, the bible is wrong when it says the highest mountains were covered, and on the other hand you have Christians who are arguing for the literal truth of a global flood which is totally impossible. It's like arguing whether Star Wars or Star Trek is more realistic, with the exception that these people really believe the sci fi actually happened.

I don't doubt that the biblical myth probably had its roots in the Epic of Gilgamesh, which was probably a story based upon a large local flood. But anyone actually believing that it is 100% real is a fool. And teaching the story to children while glossing over the deaths of who knows how many people is heinous.

I could not have said it better myself, also to note that the Empire would kick the federations ass.

It is an interesting observation in regards to the local vs world wide. I could go into the meteorlogical issues and climate issues those alone would defeat the world wide account. I will say this, in a world wide flood scenario the ark would be blown to pieces because the wind speeds would reach such a high velocity due to the lack of land friction to slow down the winds......just imagine that one....not counting the rogue waves.

[FallentoReason]

I wonder what our resident theists think of this thread... this somewhat common silence by them on particular threads speaks volumes about their special pleading ways..

[Airyaman]

With time much of the events of the bible become thorns in the side of the various Abrahamic religions. For some reason they can't come to grips with the idea that there was no Internet or TV around in those days, so local events were often seen as worldwide.

To a fish in a tank, its whole world is in the tank and in the room it is placed in. The ancient biblical writers were merely fish in a tank that knew nothing of the rest of the real world.

[Drich]

If god is all knowing, then how come he doesn't seem to know that the flood will not accomplish his goal of eliminating sin?
If he did know that it would not work then why did he kill everyone anyway, including the new born babies, to young to sin, which by his own definition he murdered?
For the bible says

Deuteronomy 24:16 ESV

“Fathers shall not be put to death because of their children, nor shall children be put to death because of their fathers. Each one shall be put to death for his own sin.

And also here in the Ten Commandments

Exodus 20:13 NIV

You shall not murder.

What makes you think the the flood was God final answer to sin?

My bible tells me the flood was the result of exceeding wickedness the world has never seen before or since... Not as a means to destroy all sin.

[Minimalist]

Your problem is that you listen to that stupid fucking bible, Drippy. Hard to take you seriously after that.

[Ryantology]

My bible tells me the flood was the result of exceeding wickedness the world has never seen before or since... Not as a means to destroy all sin.

I wonder what it's like to go through life accepting a single source as unquestionable fact in spite of its flagrant bias and patently impossible claims and never once bothering to examine it with a critical eye.