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RE: Why is God treated like a retarded and selfish child?
September 25, 2013 at 9:20 pm
My favorite passage from the OT that displays mercy and forgiveness:
Deu 28:63 And as the LORD took delight in doing you good and multiplying you, so the LORD will take delight in bringing ruin upon you and destroying you. And you shall be plucked off the land that you are entering to take possession of it.
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RE: Why is God treated like a retarded and selfish child?
September 26, 2013 at 9:07 am
(September 25, 2013 at 9:20 pm)Airyaman Wrote: Deu 28:63 And as the LORD took delight in doing you good and multiplying you, so the LORD will take delight in bringing ruin upon you and destroying you. And you shall be plucked off the land that you are entering to take possession of it.
Sounds like a bipolar god to me. I guess that's why Christians think they have to walk on eggshells.
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RE: Why is God treated like a retarded and selfish child?
September 30, 2013 at 2:32 am
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Meh, neither Testament paints him very nice. That book of lies Wrote:Hebrews 10:31
[It is] a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.
Matthew 10:28 - And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
Umm yeeeah .... he sounds like a real sweetheart.
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RE: Why is God treated like a retarded and selfish child?
September 30, 2013 at 11:41 am
(September 25, 2013 at 5:07 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: (September 25, 2013 at 4:54 pm)John V Wrote: Psalm 103
8 The Lord is merciful and gracious,
Slow to anger, and abounding in mercy.
Except when it comes to the global flood, Amelikites, Sodom & Gomorrah, etc. Guess you skipped over the "slow to" anger part, and didn't read down to the "those who fear him" part.
Consider the global flood. IIRC it took decades for Noah to build the ark. God was slow to anger, but the people didn't respect him despite the warning.
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RE: Why is God treated like a retarded and selfish child?
September 30, 2013 at 11:47 am
You "consider" the global flood. I'll stick to reality, ok?
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RE: Why is God treated like a retarded and selfish child?
September 30, 2013 at 8:20 pm
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(September 30, 2013 at 11:41 am)John V Wrote: (September 25, 2013 at 5:07 pm)Doubting Thomas Wrote: Except when it comes to the global flood, Amelikites, Sodom & Gomorrah, etc. Guess you skipped over the "slow to" anger part, and didn't read down to the "those who fear him" part.
Consider the global flood. IIRC it took decades for Noah to build the ark. God was slow to anger, but the people didn't respect him despite the warning.
Assuming that story is true.
Why even threaten people with a global flood? You say he waited decades for the ark but he was already committing to the flood. That's like a father threatening a child with a severe nose breaking beating but allows him some time to prepare for it. That to you is "loving"?
So the part where those psalms mention a loving god is null and void once you read the rest of it and see the atrocities he had committed. If I told you a neighbor of mine was a nice and kind man and then proceeded to tell you that he beats his wife and children, gets pissy with neighbors, and generally doesn't keep a nice household, you would easily see the contradiction. How come you cannot see that with your god?
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RE: Why is God treated like a retarded and selfish child?
September 30, 2013 at 8:52 pm
(September 30, 2013 at 11:41 am)John V Wrote: Consider the global flood. IIRC it took decades for Noah to build the ark. God was slow to anger, but the people didn't respect him despite the warning.
Yeah, really sucks for all those people who didn't live within a few miles of Noah and had no idea what was happening or why. Of course, they deserved to die anyway for committing the crime of being born, so fuck em.
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RE: Why is God treated like a retarded and selfish child?
September 30, 2013 at 10:14 pm
(September 30, 2013 at 11:41 am)John V Wrote: Consider the global flood. IIRC it took decades for Noah to build the ark. God was slow to anger, but the people didn't respect him despite the warning.
Well, since he told Noah to build a huge ark that would hold 2 to 7 pairs of all of the organisms in the world with no power tools or magical god powers, I guess he had to exercise a fair amount of patience.
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RE: Why is God treated like a retarded and selfish child?
September 30, 2013 at 10:17 pm
(September 30, 2013 at 11:41 am)John V Wrote: Guess you skipped over the "slow to" anger part, and didn't read down to the "those who fear him" part.
Consider the global flood. IIRC it took decades for Noah to build the ark. God was slow to anger, but the people didn't respect him despite the warning.
So to you, a crime committed slowly isn't a crime at all? Cool, all those torturers who take their time will be very happy to hear that.
Oh, and tell all this "slow to anger" shit to Lot's wife, would you?
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RE: Why is God treated like a retarded and selfish child?
October 1, 2013 at 2:16 pm
(September 30, 2013 at 8:20 pm)gilbertc06 Wrote: Assuming that story is true.
Why even threaten people with a global flood? Because the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
Quote:You say he waited decades for the ark but he was already committing to the flood. That's like a father threatening a child with a severe nose breaking beating but allows him some time to prepare for it.
No, it's like a judge giving criminals decades to repent. God doesn't claim fatherhood to all of man.
Quote:So the part where those psalms mention a loving god is null and void once you read the rest of it and see the atrocities he had committed.
I'd say it's up to the people who are loved to determine whether the love is there or not. The people being judged obviously aren't going to see it.
Quote:If I told you a neighbor of mine was a nice and kind man and then proceeded to tell you that he beats his wife and children, gets pissy with neighbors, and generally doesn't keep a nice household, you would easily see the contradiction. How come you cannot see that with your god?
If you told me a neighbor of yours was a nice and kind man then proceeded to tell me he was a judge who routinely handed out punishment to criminals, I wouldn't see a contradiction. How come you cannot see that with my god?
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