The vast complexity of living things proves that God exists (proof 1)

[LastPoet]

Yeah, but the grace on "saved by grace" is not a person. I figure that probably it is the vaunted grace of god, or some bullshit of the like, so its 50-50.

[pocaracas]

50.01?

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

The problem is how do you explain the complexity of the life forms that exist without God.

By evolution. Variation and selection. C'mon, keep up.

Variation and selection within a created kind does not show how life even began or how one kind evolved into another kind.

[Doubting Thomas]

I have a question, why do you refer to SBGTF as a 'she'?

Which is why I think SBG is one big poe troll. He/she has never introduced him/herself, and won't even elaborate whether or not he/she is male or female to clear up the confusion.

So SavedByGrace, are you a male or female, so that we'll know how to refer to you?

[Cyberman]

Variation and selection within a created kind does not show how life even began

Correct!

or how one kind evolved into another kind.

Fail!

[Chas]

By evolution. Variation and selection. C'mon, keep up.

Variation and selection within a created kind does not show how life even began or how one kind evolved into another kind.

The former is not part of the Theory of Evolution, and the latter is the failure of your intellect.

You do not seem to understand the expanse of time involved, nor the fossil record, nor the idea that successive small changes can create large change without limit.

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

Variation and selection within a created kind does not show how life even began or how one kind evolved into another kind.

The former is not part of the Theory of Evolution, and the latter is the failure of your intellect.

You do not seem to understand the expanse of time involved, nor the fossil record, nor the idea that successive small changes can create large change without limit.

I covered why atheistic origin science must answer the whole thing from atoms to man in my post about abiogenesis.

[popeyespappy]

Variation and selection within a created kind does not show how life even began or how one kind evolved into another kind.

The former is not part of the Theory of Evolution, and the latter is the failure of your intellect.

You do not seem to understand the expanse of time involved, nor the fossil record, nor the idea that successive small changes can create large change without limit.

It isn't that he doesn't understand the expanse of time involved, Chas. It is that his particular interpretation of the Buybull doesn't permit him to consider it as an option.

[SavedByGraceThruFaith]

Variation and selection within a created kind does not show how life even began or how one kind evolved into another kind.

The former is not part of the Theory of Evolution, and the latter is the failure of your intellect.

You do not seem to understand the expanse of time involved, nor the fossil record, nor the idea that successive small changes can create large change without limit.

The theory of small changes can add up to large changes is a fundamentally flawed line of reasoning. The reason is that extrapolation beyond the measured range is never guaranteed.

Secondly, assumptions of linearity are almost always, if not always, false in the real world.

[Zazzy]

And... STILL conflating abiogenesis with evolution, even though it has been explained multiple times that these are separate fields. Grace, why is it so important to you to keep repeating this canard?