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And Hells come back to haunt me
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 (December 6, 2013 at 3:25 pm)Stimbo Wrote: What specifically had you in mind? I wouldn't wish to miss something important. Generally, the only times I've seen atheists "throw around" 'proof', supposed or otherwise, it's been in response to some theist assertion or other. I knew you were wearing blinders! GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
If you like (whats that bit about removing the plank from your own eye? Hmmm). You want me to retread the whole thread, and probably all the others as well, just to look for what you have in mind. Hardly reasonable. Which is why I asked if you could do me the courtesy of, you know, actually telling me.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(December 6, 2013 at 5:07 pm)Stimbo Wrote: If you like (whats that bit about removing the plank from your own eye? Hmmm). You want me to retread the whole thread, and probably all the others as well, just to look for what you have in mind. Hardly reasonable. Which is why I asked if you could do me the courtesy of, you know, actually telling me. I don't need to tell you anything, you know what I mean and as for the plank that is a spiritual blindness. GC
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
RE: And Hells come back to haunt me
December 6, 2013 at 7:59 pm
(This post was last modified: December 6, 2013 at 8:00 pm by Cyberman.)
Please don't tell me what I know. I'm not going to play your silly games. Either show me what you want me to look at or don't and shut up about it, there's a good chap.
As for the "spiritual blindness" thing; yes. of course it is. When it suits you.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
(December 6, 2013 at 7:59 pm)Stimbo Wrote: Please don't tell me what I know. I'm not going to play your silly games. Either show me what you want me to look at or don't and shut up about it, there's a good chap. Whatever.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
Indeed.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
Atheist Credo: A universe by chance that also just happened to admit the observer by chance.
Why should I have? Isn't that your bag?
What purpose does any of this serve anyway? You wouldn't be trolling me, would you?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (December 6, 2013 at 9:22 pm)snowtracks Wrote: stim, no spiritual discernment to call upon? Nope. Stimbo walks just fine without crutches.
Even if the open windows of science at first make us shiver after the cozy indoor warmth of traditional humanizing myths, in the end the fresh air brings vigor, and the great spaces have a splendor of their own - Bertrand Russell
Now why didn't I think of that?
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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