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Abiogenesis is impossible
RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 8, 2014 at 2:22 am)Losty Wrote: But what if life arised from something? And maybe because we are just only humans we can't see what that something is. That doesn't mean it's a god, just because we don't understand. Right?

Well, in that case it wouldn't be abiogenesis, it'd just be biogenesis, but other than that, you're essentially right. Tongue
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 8, 2014 at 12:04 am)snowtracks Wrote: wrong again. "no effect without a cause, and the effect is never greater than cause". now, go in the corner and repeat 100 times or till you understand. puddles is confused also.

Why should one repeat that 100 times? It's wrong...
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 8, 2014 at 3:13 am)Alex K Wrote:
(October 8, 2014 at 12:04 am)snowtracks Wrote: wrong again. "no effect without a cause, and the effect is never greater than cause". now, go in the corner and repeat 100 times or till you understand. puddles is confused also.

Why should one repeat that 100 times? It's wrong...

Hasn't Snowy's posting strategy thus far clearly shown that he's under the delusion that repeating a wrong thing enough times makes it right?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 8, 2014 at 12:04 am)snowtracks Wrote: "no effect without a cause,
Have you looked into the cause that science is proposing for abiogenesis?


(October 8, 2014 at 12:04 am)snowtracks Wrote: and the effect is never greater than cause".

Indeed... conservation of energy and matter plays a role in this, of course.

Now, why is it that water molecules bind together?
Why is it that carbon, hydrogen and oxygen atoms bind together to form hydrocarbons?
Why is it that hydrocarbons bind together to form amino-acids?
Why is it that amino-acids bind together to form proteins?

How does a fluorescent lamp work?

Why is it that nuclear fusion is the major power source available to us (sun)?

Have you looked into these things?
Or are you just ignorantly spewing the equally ignorant remarks uttered by others?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 8, 2014 at 2:54 am)Esquilax Wrote:
(October 8, 2014 at 2:22 am)Losty Wrote: But what if life arised from something? And maybe because we are just only humans we can't see what that something is. That doesn't mean it's a god, just because we don't understand. Right?

Well, in that case it wouldn't be abiogenesis, it'd just be biogenesis, but other than that, you're essentially right. Tongue

Well...then... I think I essentially don't science.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 8, 2014 at 3:58 am)Losty Wrote:
(October 8, 2014 at 2:54 am)Esquilax Wrote: Well, in that case it wouldn't be abiogenesis, it'd just be biogenesis, but other than that, you're essentially right. Tongue

Well...then... I think I essentially don't science.

Well' unless it's always been there for all eternity since before the big bang, like God (Wink Shades), it's certainly arisen from something. If other living creatures had created our form of life synthetically, I don't know whether that would count as abiogenesis, but unless they used their own material directly, I'd say yes.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 8, 2014 at 4:00 am)Alex K Wrote:
(October 8, 2014 at 3:58 am)Losty Wrote: Well...then... I think I essentially don't science.

Well' unless it's always been there for all eternity since before the big bang, like God (Wink Shades), it's certainly arisen from something. If other living creatures had created our form of life synthetically, I don't know whether that would count as abiogenesis, but unless they used their own material directly, I'd say yes.

No, that's not abiogenesis. However, it just moves the event one step away - where did they come from?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 8, 2014 at 6:11 am)Chas Wrote: No, that's not abiogenesis. However, it just moves the event one step away - where did they come from?

Of course, I just wasn't sure about the lingo.
The fool hath said in his heart, There is a God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.
Psalm 14, KJV revised edition

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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 8, 2014 at 12:04 am)snowtracks Wrote: wrong again. "no effect without a cause, and the effect is never greater than cause". now, go in the corner and repeat 100 times or till you understand. puddles is confused also.

So... now you're just rewording your refuted Cosmological Argument to bring it one step further back to hope we wouldn't notice? Usually, when creationists use that argument, they try to use it to get closer to proving God, not to step away from it. I guess I'll give you props for recognizing when your argument has been refuted and moving away from it, but you're still essentially making the same argument. I think you've managed to trick yourself into thinking otherwise...

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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
(October 8, 2014 at 3:41 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(October 8, 2014 at 12:04 am)snowtracks Wrote: "no effect without a cause,
Have you looked into the cause that science is proposing for abiogenesis?


American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) will only interpret data to advance a naturalism explanation. They state: “Science is a process of seeking natural explanations for natural phenomena“. So it’s not a conspiracy, but a policy. That’s all good and well but one should know that going in.
http://archives.aaas.org/docs/resolution...doc_id=443
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