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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
February 1, 2015 at 3:15 am
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"The soul is who we are."
Does this mean metaphorically, or that our whole body is our soul? Or just our brain? Or what?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
February 1, 2015 at 4:05 am
(February 1, 2015 at 3:07 am)snowtracks Wrote: (February 1, 2015 at 2:50 am)Chas Wrote: So, Snowflake, you've got nothing.
. like that's some big stumper question...you're kidding right?
You didn't actually respond intelligently or answer the questions.
So, yes, it appears you were stumped, Snowflake.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
February 4, 2015 at 1:57 am
(February 1, 2015 at 3:15 am)robvalue Wrote: "The soul is who we are."
Does this mean metaphorically, or that our whole body is our soul? Or just our brain? Or what? Body and mind, not brain (part of the body). Perhaps 'personhood' would be the word. A caveat - the soul needs to be guarded against unrighteous behavior since it's been tainted with the sin nature.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
February 4, 2015 at 2:01 am
(February 4, 2015 at 1:57 am)snowtracks Wrote: (February 1, 2015 at 3:15 am)robvalue Wrote: "The soul is who we are."
Does this mean metaphorically, or that our whole body is our soul? Or just our brain? Or what? Body and mind, not brain (part of the body). Perhaps 'personhood' would be the word. A caveat - the soul needs to be guarded against unrighteous behavior since it's been tainted with the sin nature.
So what does the brain do, if the bit that does all the driving is separate from it? And why is it that brain injuries can alter the personality, if the two are unconnected?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
February 4, 2015 at 2:11 am
(February 4, 2015 at 1:57 am)snowtracks Wrote: (February 1, 2015 at 3:15 am)robvalue Wrote: "The soul is who we are."
Does this mean metaphorically, or that our whole body is our soul? Or just our brain? Or what? Body and mind, not brain (part of the body). Perhaps 'personhood' would be the word. A caveat - the soul needs to be guarded against unrighteous behavior since it's been tainted with the sin nature.
So is the soul in my leg, arm, heart, partially in my heart? If I get a heart transplant, does that mean I get part of someone else's soul?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
February 4, 2015 at 1:12 pm
(February 4, 2015 at 1:57 am)snowtracks Wrote: (February 1, 2015 at 3:15 am)robvalue Wrote: "The soul is who we are."
Does this mean metaphorically, or that our whole body is our soul? Or just our brain? Or what? Body and mind, not brain (part of the body). Perhaps 'personhood' would be the word. A caveat - the soul needs to be guarded against unrighteous behavior since it's been tainted with the sin nature.
All evidence says mind is brain-based, nothing more.
You have yet to demonstrate the existence of souls, let alone tainted ones.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
February 4, 2015 at 1:14 pm
(February 4, 2015 at 2:01 am)Esquilax Wrote: (February 4, 2015 at 1:57 am)snowtracks Wrote: Body and mind, not brain (part of the body). Perhaps 'personhood' would be the word. A caveat - the soul needs to be guarded against unrighteous behavior since it's been tainted with the sin nature.
So what does the brain do, if the bit that does all the driving is separate from it? And why is it that brain injuries can alter the personality, if the two are unconnected?
And why can people get drunk/high if their "mind" is not material?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
February 4, 2015 at 1:20 pm
(February 4, 2015 at 1:14 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: And why can people get drunk/high if their "mind" is not material? Magic, poof!
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
February 4, 2015 at 1:48 pm
(February 4, 2015 at 1:57 am)snowtracks Wrote: (February 1, 2015 at 3:15 am)robvalue Wrote: "The soul is who we are."
Does this mean metaphorically, or that our whole body is our soul? Or just our brain? Or what? Body and mind, not brain (part of the body). Perhaps 'personhood' would be the word. A caveat - the soul needs to be guarded against unrighteous behavior since it's been tainted with the sin nature.
Is there a taint scale?
Is there someone we can contact who will accept money to remove this taint, and where can I find them?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
February 4, 2015 at 1:50 pm
And if I ask nicely, would he be willing to lick my taint?
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