Abiogenesis is impossible

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How are you interpreting 'information'? It's just chemistry.

this information is a set of instruction to do something. for instance, a skin scratch repairment: the proteins, blood, chem. needs to know the construction commands or else nothing happens. that's dna encoded infor.

[Brakeman]

How are you interpreting 'information'? It's just chemistry.

this information is a set of instruction to do something. for instance, a skin scratch repairment: the proteins, blood, chem. needs to know the construction commands or else nothing happens. that's dna encoded infor.

I think you'd better refer to your high school biology textbook again for that example. DNA is used to create proteins, it's biochemistry that guides the reaction to a cut.

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evolutionary theory is a step by step process. the information from the previously step must be maintained. it like in computer programming, the "if, then, else" type routine is used in the subsequent step of data from the previous step to make decisions. this information grows exponentially with each step.

That is not at all accurate. There is no requirement that information be preserved. Any amount of change may occur.

You are focused on the wrong thing. It is a blind algorithm encompassing random change and reproductive success.

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crick (nobel laureate) thought of the beginning of life as a lucky accident that occurred somewhere in the U. so he advanced the theory of directed panspermia which is an approach to explain life's first occurrence on earth as the work of aliens by seeding it with life.

That explains precisely nothing - it just moves the origin.

The lucky accident occurring on earth is a simpler explanation.

researcher haven't found that to be true - after panspermia lost it appeal due to ultraviolet radiation studies demonstrating that bacterial spores couldn't survive inter-stellar travel, researchers turned their attention to focusing on finding chemical routes that would produce molecular building blocks. after researching for decades, paul davies wrote investigators are baffled at this point but won't admit it publicly due to concern that funding will be curtailed. so stealthy, have turned their attention back to panspermia with a twist which is travel only within earth's solar system; hence the big hullabaloo about mars and it's moons.

[Esquilax]

researcher haven't found that to be true - after panspermia lost it appeal due to ultraviolet radiation studies demonstrating that bacterial spores couldn't survive inter-stellar travel, researchers turned their attention to focusing on finding chemical routes that would produce molecular building blocks. after researching for decades, paul davies wrote investigators are baffled at this point but won't admit it publicly due to concern that funding will be curtailed. so stealthy, have turned their attention back to panspermia with a twist which is travel only within earth's solar system; hence the big hullabaloo about mars and it's moons.

So you're resorting to arguments from ignorance again?

Seriously, even if they haven't found it yet, it doesn't mean there was a designer. Rather than poking holes in the available science- and relying on your profound misunderstanding of such to do so- you need to provide positive evidence for your position.

[snowtracks]

researcher haven't found that to be true - after panspermia lost it appeal due to ultraviolet radiation studies demonstrating that bacterial spores couldn't survive inter-stellar travel, researchers turned their attention to focusing on finding chemical routes that would produce molecular building blocks. after researching for decades, paul davies wrote investigators are baffled at this point but won't admit it publicly due to concern that funding will be curtailed. so stealthy, have turned their attention back to panspermia with a twist which is travel only within earth's solar system; hence the big hullabaloo about mars and it's moons.

someone asked about if i was up on evolutionary theory. yes, that's where it stands. mars may come thru with something.
So you're resorting to arguments from ignorance again?

Seriously, even if they haven't found it yet, it doesn't mean there was a designer. Rather than poking holes in the available science- and relying on your profound misunderstanding of such to do so- you need to provide positive evidence for your position.

[The Reality Salesman01]

This is sounding much like a Dinesh Desouza argument-"If you don't have a definitive alternative explanation, the one I pull from my ass must be true, thank you"

[Esquilax]

What does panspermia have to do with evolution, Snowy? What does any theory on the origins of life have to do with evolution?

[snowtracks]

someone asked about if i was up on evolutionary theory. yes, that's where it stands. mars may come thru with something.
So you're resorting to arguments from ignorance again?

Seriously, even if they haven't found it yet, it doesn't mean there was a designer. Rather than poking holes in the available science- and relying on your profound misunderstanding of such to do so- you need to provide positive evidence for your position.

i'm not giving any God of the gaps arguments when discussing issues so you really shouldn't keep whinning.

[Esquilax]

i'm not giving any God of the gaps arguments when discussing issues so you really shouldn't keep whinning.

Then what's your point? All you've done so far is point out gaps in the science... what else could you be saying other than that?

[Angrboda]

Ah, yes, and there's the "science is a grand conspiracy against jebus" bullshit, right on schedule. We don't need atomic clocks to set our watches against, we just have to set our watches by the pace at which the creationists rolls out the same, tired, many times refuted, bullshit arguments and we're good to go.


By the way, did you mean to type 'whining' or 'winning' there, because both apply.