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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 28, 2015 at 8:15 am
If you have a FM positioned at A (bipedal), and a FM positioned at Z (quadrupedal), anything from B to Y would be intermediate.
You want a quadruped with a FM positioned between that of a quadruped and a biped? That animal would likely have walked partly quadrupedal and partly bipedal, which won't meet your strange quadrupedal requirements; otherwise, you would have already accepted the evidence that we do have.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
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For context, this is the previous verse:
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 28, 2015 at 8:17 am
Remember the rule, Exian: if a transitional form is found between two other forms, that just means that there are TWO missing links now. And since these are metaphysical goal posts, they can continue to be shifted even after you have run out of ground.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 28, 2015 at 8:21 am
Lol If we were lucky enough to have a fossil record that included the FM in all positions A-Z, he'd be asking for Y1/2.
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
"Hi Jesus" -robvalue
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 28, 2015 at 12:41 pm
(This post was last modified: April 28, 2015 at 12:43 pm by nihilistcat.)
(April 28, 2015 at 8:21 am)Exian Wrote: Lol If we were lucky enough to have a fossil record that included the FM in all positions A-Z, he'd be asking for Y1/2.
Exactly, it doesn't matter how much proof you show to fundies (you could take them back in time to the point where the buybull authors were concocting their folklore, and it still wouldn't matter) ... that's why we have words like stupid and idiot and retarded
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 29, 2015 at 1:39 pm
(This post was last modified: April 29, 2015 at 2:36 pm by Angrboda.)
(April 26, 2015 at 2:03 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:
snowtracks Wrote: I asked for images showing an immediate placement between of FM between quadrapedal and bipedal…hominids were bipedal.
You did no such thing. I posted exactly what you asked for. You've moved the goalposts a second time and are lying about it.
Here are your exact words. For Christ's sake, even the image you posted used the same two endpoints - chimp and modern human - as mine did.
(April 22, 2015 at 1:43 am)snowtracks Wrote: It where the evidence leads. For instance: The (FM) foramen magnum (opening in the base of the skull that receives the spinal column) in modern humans is in the center of the skull; whereas, in the great apes and other primates it is located in the posterior. http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/7767/skullofhumanandgorillam.png If this relocation of the FM emerged through natural-process biological evolution, early forms should gradually transition from the posterior location; but of course, there isn’t any paleontology evidence (the claim of ‘future discovery’ only has a limited shelf-life {please not again, that is so lame}). What is evident, is this relocation appeared suddenly in the fossil record, remains essentially unaltered, and was optimal as soon as it appeared
If you have an intermediate FM location image, post it.
Then you moved the goalposts. But my image still fit your request.
(April 25, 2015 at 10:37 pm)snowtracks Wrote: I’ll be more specific: An image of the (FM) foramen magnum (not a skull side view) that shows a side-by-side geometry comparison of an immediate transitional placement of the FM between the posterior location of the knuckle-walking primates and the upright-walking homo sapiens. If you have the goods, no reason to be reticent about posting the images.
The chimpanzee is a knuckle-walking primate. Australopithecus and pithecanthropus are intermediate between the chimpanzee and homo sapiens. And you are a liar.
Quote:A primate is any member of the biological order Primates, the group that contains all lemurs, monkeys, apes, and humans.
http://www.releasechimps.org/chimpanzees/overview
Wikipedia | Knuckle-walking Wrote:Chimpanzees and gorillas engage in knuckle-walking.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 29, 2015 at 8:13 pm
Chimps are one body plan, Aust.. & Pith.. are another, not intermediates. Looking for images between those distinct body plans.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 29, 2015 at 8:16 pm
What's the difference between an intermediate and a species that contains many members and generations?
I can't remember where this verse is from, I think it got removed from canon:
"I don't hang around with mostly men because I'm gay. It's because men are better than women. Better trained, better equipped...better. Just better! I'm not gay."
For context, this is the previous verse:
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 29, 2015 at 10:26 pm
(April 28, 2015 at 8:15 am)Exian Wrote: If you have a FM positioned at A (bipedal), and a FM positioned at Z (quadrupedal), anything from B to Y would be intermediate.
You want a quadruped with a FM positioned between that of a quadruped and a biped? That animal would likely have walked partly quadrupedal and partly bipedal, which won't meet your strange quadrupedal requirements; otherwise, you would have already accepted the evidence that we do have. Bingo! Thats the point. If bipedalism emerged through natural-process biological evolution, the anatomical changes should gradually occur. So where are these stange looking creatures? Bipedalism appeared suddenly in the fossil record and was optimal soon as it appeared.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 29, 2015 at 10:31 pm
There's no other explanation. It can only have been God.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
April 29, 2015 at 11:49 pm
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(April 29, 2015 at 10:31 pm)Stimbo Wrote: There's no other explanation. It can only have been God.
There's no other explanation. It can only have been the Christian God.
Fixed that for you.
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